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Post by illumina on Feb 27, 2005 1:13:01 GMT 2
Forgot - Kelley Armstrong's books are great too - and she's put novellas to download on her website - free!
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Elanor
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-Pulchra et luna, Electa ut sol-
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Post by Elanor on Apr 1, 2005 21:44:46 GMT 2
my fave authors are J.R.R Tolkien and David Edding. I like fantasy literature. but Sujata Massey is really good too! She writes mystery books.
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Post by Hellga on Apr 3, 2005 16:50:41 GMT 2
J.R.R. Tolkien -The Silmarillion- Margaret Atwood -The Handmaid's Tale- Gabriel Garcia Marquez -Hundred Years of Solitude- Kenzaburo Oe -A Personal Matter- Art Spiegelman -Maus- (comicBOOK) Gabriel Garcia Márquez is an excelent latin american writter. he has done good books with fascinant histories. --------> Hundred Years of Solitude is excelent. i recommend that to anybody!
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Post by DaveTheRake on Apr 4, 2005 8:55:11 GMT 2
Gabriel Garcia Márquez is an excelent latin american writter. he has done good books with fascinant histories. --------> Hundred Years of Solitude is excelent. i recommend that to anybody! "Relatos De Un Naufrago", excellent too (sorry, I don't know how it's the English tittle); I read it when I was 12 and it impressed me. The last book I've read is from another Spanish writer, (actually I've told you about him before) Ramon Maria Del Valle Inclan; the Spanish tittle is "Sonata de Primavera", maybe a translation in English could be "Spring Ballad" or something like that. It's the first part of the Marques De Bradomin's tetralogy, each part being a season of the year. The story is about a Spanish aristhocrat who is a sort of "Don Juan". In fact it's a kind of satire about the figure of Don Juan; first due to although being Spanish, he points to Cassanova as his spiritual father; second due to the description the writer gives of him, "he was maybe the most admirable of all Don Juanes, he was ugly, catholic and sentimental"
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Post by Hellga on Apr 4, 2005 14:46:18 GMT 2
a question: when you say (in the book) that man was a sort of "Don juan" you mean that is when the man thinks he is the most cute and wanted by all women..?? well i have that idea,The Cassanova of the city, more or less....! well i think im rigth.! in my case, im reading The Life of the World to Come by Kage Baker.
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Post by DaveTheRake on Apr 4, 2005 20:51:30 GMT 2
Well, yes, in a way; in fact I'm reffering to the old myth of the Spanish Heart-breaker... the myth of Don Juan... don't you know the myth? Being from Latinoamerica you should know... I mean, did you get the independence from us and forget all the good we taught to you? The myth of Don Juan is a myth with variations, but is the myth of a man who seduces all the women in town; at the end he falls trully in love with a woman but he doesn't get her, whatever the reason is, and dies and goes to hell (usually); each author had his variation; In Zorrilla's Don Juan Tenorio (The Best Known in Literature in Spanish Language) he is saved by Doña Ines' sacrifice who intercedes for him at the hour of his death (she's already dead). In Lord Byron's he is not the womanizer but the womanized (more or less as it happens with me ) and he is used by the women he finds on his journey; if I'm not wrong he goes to hell. THen you've got another one from Torrente Ballester, but I haven't read it nor studied; you've got many more, this figure was highly popular when Romanticism. Cassanova is the same figure, but instead of Spanish is Italian... I don't really know who was the first of them... but although he was from Seville, I vote for the Spanish one!
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Post by MaliceGarden on Apr 4, 2005 20:55:37 GMT 2
is her name ines de castro?! i hope not! if it is, goddamn spanish, because we also have a tragic episode of a girl called ines d castro! of course, than tis a question to know which one came up first.
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Post by Humppaporo on Apr 4, 2005 21:45:06 GMT 2
Some wise man once said:
Every story is written before...every thought is thought before...
Don't remember who he was, but it's a sad thought...
nothing is original in that way...but who'd thought the first thought about something? (exept Malice of course ;D)
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Post by MaliceGarden on Apr 4, 2005 21:52:57 GMT 2
i didnt know about the girl in don juan story. there's a beer ad(its brit, but it happens in spain) thats about a guy that saw a kind of a ghost. when he goes to a bar and the barman tells him it ines d castro. as dave mentioned ines, i remember the ad. our ines d castro tragedy goes like this(if im wrong in something please correct me.thks!), aham: some centuries ago(around 15th century), the prince had an affair with a girl called ines de castro, but some ppl(king, his father and noblesmen) didnt enjoyed that and kill her. of course, the prince got pissed and when he became king he took vengeance (bloody) of the noblemen. i think he didnt do anything special to his father.
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Post by Humppaporo on Apr 4, 2005 22:40:45 GMT 2
Always the same 'Old Tale' ;D
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Post by MaliceGarden on Apr 4, 2005 22:41:21 GMT 2
:] thats what the people like.
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Post by DaveTheRake on Apr 5, 2005 7:39:02 GMT 2
I didn't know by myself, but I've looked for some info and you can breathe Malice, is not Ines De Castro, but Ines De Ulloa, daughter of Calatrava's Comendattore. Anyway I must look for more info, 'cos I suspect that maybe the coincidence in the names of this two Ines who are dead by the "treachery" of a man is not a casual coincidence, but maybe there's a Saint called Ines or something like that. I know a very beautiful girl here in the library who is called Ines, I'll ask her, and it will be a pleasure ;D
@humppa: I really liked this sentence! It sounded to me in a way, but I'm not sure I heard it like that or something similar... anyway it's a great and truthful sentence. I once read that inspiration is a kind of remeberance, hence you cannot create nothing really new, but rather you create from your rememberances, you recreate what you've seen before. Let's remember that creation in Middle Ages was a suspection of whitchery, 'cos the only one who could create was God, and if anybody tried to create then he was trying to be as high as God.
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Post by Humppaporo on Apr 5, 2005 8:42:19 GMT 2
I know a very beautiful girl here in the library who is called Ines, I'll ask her, and it will be a pleasure ;D I thought libraries were filled with books, not with beautiful girls ;D maybe that differs from country to country...;D (Maybe you could use your second sight to your own benefit... ) @humppa: I really liked this sentence! It sounded to me in a way, but I'm not sure I heard it like that or something similar... anyway it's a great and truthful sentence. I once read that inspiration is a kind of remeberance, hence you cannot create nothing really new, but rather you create from your rememberances, you recreate what you've seen before. Let's remember that creation in Middle Ages was a suspection of whitchery, 'cos the only one who could create was God, and if anybody tried to create then he was trying to be as high as God. I don't now the exact phrase, but only used words to that effect. What you write about the medieval times is correct and still counts in some countries. In Persian carpets f.i. are always one or more deliberatly made failures, because no human could be perfect, only God, and it would be profanity to reate something that is perfect. But through the ages, lot's of painters, composers and other artists copied works of others or used works of others as a heavy base to rely on by creating their own art. It was a way of honouring the other one, by recognizing him as a master. It was an honour to be copied! Don't let the record companies hear this ;D
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Post by MaliceGarden on Apr 5, 2005 10:10:36 GMT 2
dave: yes, there are saints called ines. no, dont bother in asking the beautiful. i dont want you to make such sacrifice. humpie: one of the reasons i dont like to go to libraries(when i really have to study) its because of the nice girls. i get distracted very easily.
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Post by Humppaporo on Apr 5, 2005 10:20:33 GMT 2
@malice: in the Netherlands most libraries are tended by very nice, but not so young ladies. You can come here to study ;D
I completely forgot we're off-topic again, so:
lately I'm reading besides Pratchett and other fanatsy also the thrillers of Andrea Camilleri, he is a great author, creates a very special atmosphere in his books (all in Italy) and great dialogues. His characters are very realistic and have enough depth. Inspector Montalbano is the leading character in his thrillers. He also wrote several other great novels, but most of those are not translated in Dutch.
Leaves me three options:
- learn Italian, always the best: read books in the original language! - read those in English or German, don't like much reading translations in other languages if I can avoid this. - wait patiently until some smartass translates those to Dutch.
Some favourites:
Het uitstapje naar Tindari (2000) (La gita a Tindari) De geur van de nacht (2001) (L'odore della notte)
if you like thrillers, you should try these!
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