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Post by janneke on Oct 29, 2006 14:26:38 GMT 2
@ Janneke: A friend of mine is studying CMV right now too and all the time I hear how great it is Is your friend studying in Nijmegen? Because they introduced competence education the year I started this study. And there's a lot to bitch about it... Ah well, in 2007 all studies will introduce the competence education. Bitching everywhere! ;D
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 29, 2006 14:34:56 GMT 2
@ Lionheart: What are you studying now? I'm currently studying IT... doing IT security as a minor, as the IT course itself is a laugh... Partly made a wrong choice cause the course I'm following isn't all that good... though I'm loving the IT security part ( my minor) so somehow it's not all that bad... In other words... I'm studying something TOTALLY different then cultural anthro
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Post by Tumi on Oct 29, 2006 20:30:02 GMT 2
@ Moondance: Well in fact I'm also interested in Cultural Antropology. I don't know if it applies to you, but I know people studying Cultural Anthropology and they say it's a bitch if you're not that good at mathematics.. I wanted to study CA too, but since maths were like the most terrible subject at school, I went to Leiden University and now I study Languages and Cultures of Latin America, which is like the anthropology of Latin America, without the maths In Leiden they have a lot of these 'Languages and Cultures of..' studies, so maybe that would be interesting for you too
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Post by Sabine on Oct 29, 2006 20:54:12 GMT 2
I don't know if it applies to you, but I know people studying Cultural Anthropology and they say it's a bitch if you're not that good at mathematics.. I wanted to study CA too, but since maths were like the most terrible subject at school, I went to Leiden University and now I study Languages and Cultures of Latin America, which is like the anthropology of Latin America, without the maths In Leiden they have a lot of these 'Languages and Cultures of..' studies, so maybe that would be interesting for you too Hmmm I'm also terrible at math, but also at grammars. I already considered to study something like that but then with Norwegian or some Finno-Ugric language (like Finnish or Estonian) but then I have to learn again new grammar. So that's nothing for me I think. But what has maths to do with CA? (except for statistic, which is the only thing in math I understand right now)
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Post by Tumi on Oct 29, 2006 21:15:07 GMT 2
The main thing are statistics - for doing research and stuff. I don't really know what else it involves, I will have to ask
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Post by RegShoe on Oct 30, 2006 9:27:10 GMT 2
I'm currently not studying anything, because in March I have to draft to the army.. for fucking 3 years! Blah.. this sucks.
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Post by Tumi on Oct 30, 2006 11:49:02 GMT 2
I'm currently not studying anything, because in March I have to draft to the army.. for fucking 3 years! Blah.. this sucks. I can imagine.. So joining the army is like obligatory in Israel? (okay I'm sorry if that's a stupid question)
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Post by RegShoe on Oct 30, 2006 14:05:15 GMT 2
I'm currently not studying anything, because in March I have to draft to the army.. for fucking 3 years! Blah.. this sucks. I can imagine.. So joining the army is like obligatory in Israel? (okay I'm sorry if that's a stupid question) Yup. Everyone has to join. There are some ways to get out of it, but I think that the people who get of it are stupid. Altough I don't share the same opinions as the government, it still is my country, and I do have to serve it.
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Post by DaveTheRake on Oct 30, 2006 15:22:56 GMT 2
Sorry, I promise I don't want to create a discussion about it Reg, but I don't think that you HAVE TO serve your country, or better I'd say you don't need to go to the army to serve your country. We also had here in Spain military service, but I always thought it was more usefull to serve in the red cross or things like that, which was the other choice; and yet I think that as long asyou pay your taxes, follow the rules and try not to brerak the law you're doing enough for your country
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Post by Tumi on Oct 30, 2006 17:49:38 GMT 2
I share your opinion Dave, but on the other hand I think it takes courage to do what Reg is about to do. I mean, I wouldn't even fight for my country if they dragged me to the battlefield - I'm too much of a hippy
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Post by Xetee on Oct 30, 2006 19:13:46 GMT 2
Sorry, I promise I don't want to create a discussion about it Reg, but I don't think that you HAVE TO serve your country, or better I'd say you don't need to go to the army to serve your country. We also had here in Spain military service, but I always thought it was more usefull to serve in the red cross or things like that, which was the other choice; and yet I think that as long asyou pay your taxes, follow the rules and try not to brerak the law you're doing enough for your country Dave, did you do the "mili"? Only curiosity, 'cause I've seen your age and you're 26 I'm lucky, the "young people" in our days don't have to go to the military service. I'm lucky
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Post by frostheim on Oct 30, 2006 19:46:39 GMT 2
I'm lucky, the "young people" in our days don't have to go to the military service. I'm lucky I did my military service around 5 years ago and I have to admit those 6 months of duty being one of the most important and most required phases in my own life so far what it comes to ie. certain mental and psychic developments; during my time in the army I consider myself having grown as a person in a very remarkable and essential way, as I had to meet many kinds of extreme ends from a direction and another both in myself and all around me, and I truly feel almost everything in my nature, character and attitudes having all got more mature in a way that suited me for the best back at that time. Although quite unnecessary nowadays, the only thing I've still regretted afterwards for a bit is, that I could have managed with my duty in the army even better if I'd been in some ways more far-sighted already in the beginning and kept my side in certain duty-bound matters about the final placement in the forces: a coastal infantryman would just have been somewhat a better alternative than those guarding- and maintenance duties in which I was commanded to in the end. EDIT: Naturally I realize that everyone makes it each in one's own way and the situations, possiblities, actions, results etc. with all these matters can be very different depending on the country, surroundings, circumstances etc. However, just my 2 cents for the discussion.
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Post by Lionheart on Oct 30, 2006 22:34:32 GMT 2
I don't know whether to praise myself lucky for not having to serve. 3 years is too long, no doubt about that. But 6 months sounds reasonable, especially cause, as Kuuraparta says, it can help to develop certain features, like self discipline etc etc. also since lately it seems that people are getting more and more individual the army can help create a team spirit again and a sense of cooperation, those are the good points of it...
On the other hand... forcing people is hardly the way to go plus it shouldn't interfere with studies and so on and so on. And I don't think it's a suitable thing for some people to do... for me... I'm undecided... I would've liked it on one hand... but prolly hated it on the other hand...
But 3 years would be too long in my opinion... but that's just my opinion
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Post by DaveTheRake on Oct 30, 2006 22:36:05 GMT 2
Dave, did you do the "mili"? Only curiosity, 'cause I've seen your age and you're 26 No I didn't. When I was 16 I asked for a suspension due to studies. So far I wanted all my life to go to "La Mili"... well, even I wanted to be a military man when I was young. THen one day I asked myself what was the point of giving 9 months of my life to the army; if I were working I had to quit the job; if I were studying I had to stop my studies for a year; if I wait till my studies were finished I'd had to wait for more than one year and a half till I could start looking for a job. So I decided that my life was mine and there was no point in spending 9 months in the army. So I decided to ask for all possible suspensions and then join the red cross, which had more meaning for me -my own brother joined the red cross. But on 1998 PP did one of the few usefull things they did in 8 years and stopped the obligatory military service, so I passed to the "reserve" (not sure the word is that). So I think that unless there's a sudden world war in the next two months I will license when I'm 27 and won't have to go to the army never. I also think that you're lucky you had not to go to the Mili, even though it's a personal opinion. But I think that the worng point of that was that it was obligatory; if it were voluntarily it would be a good thing, but I don't understand why the country asks you to do that kind of things... they won't pay you nor will give you a thing back for those 9 months. Though it is true what Pekka says, and some people changes on the military service. One friend of mine had a surjery on the chest when he was 15, so he was free of duty, but he wanted to go and he still says he had a good life on the Mili. It's just a personal view.
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Post by RegShoe on Oct 31, 2006 13:18:37 GMT 2
DaveTheRake: There are many ways of serving your country. Paying taxes, not breaking any laws, and so and so. One of the major ways is to join the army. Unfortunately I don't have the abillity to make a chiose whether doing it or not. The problem in Israel is that most people are just selfish. They care only about themselves (and I have to say that in some occations I'm like that too). If you had the choise whether joining the army or go to the University, maybe 5,000 people would join the army each year. And that it a really small amount of people. Right now, at these times, My country depends on it's army. If we'd have no army, we'd have no country. that's a sad thing, but it's the truth. My point is, I would really, really rather go and study in the university by now, and not waste 3 years of my life, but I know that I have to. And I don't regret it.
Tumi: Well, it's not courage, it's the normal thing to do, as wierd as it sounds :}
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