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Post by Humppaporo on Mar 30, 2005 12:50:33 GMT 2
lol Don't let Helran hear you...
But I have a question regarding Finnish:
sometimes I see ä and sometimes a, is there a difference in pronounciation? Or serves this another purpose?
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Post by MaliceGarden on Mar 30, 2005 12:54:08 GMT 2
the a with the umlaut(who knows the english name of this) prolongs the sound. i think its like in german.
but, its true. france has a lot of ppl from a lot of different countries. like a bowl of different cereals. :]
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Post by Humppaporo on Mar 30, 2005 13:05:37 GMT 2
In German the sound changes, not the lenght of the sound.
You might be right, I don't know. I do know that also ää is possible. In Dutch we pronounce 'aa' very different from 'a'. It's not just a longer sound, it is different.
But in songs I didn't hear the difference, that's why I ask. I don't know what to listen for exactly.
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Post by frostheim on Mar 30, 2005 16:24:47 GMT 2
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Post by Humppaporo on Mar 30, 2005 17:17:11 GMT 2
In Dutch we also have long vowels (sounding different than the short ones) written by double vowels: aa, uu, oo, etc. and with only one consonant inbetween they also sound long (that's to make things difficult ), like: zomer (sounds like zoomer (this doesn't sound like the English oo, or the Finnish u, more like the vowels in 'boat'). But you write that this is pronounced as 'ä' and so on. Is there some website I can hear this? It doesn't make things clear, since we don't use 'umlauts' and the German ones sound different I think.
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Post by frostheim on Mar 30, 2005 17:39:04 GMT 2
Is there some website I can hear this? Here goes again. ;D The words as written: "härmä" = "white frost, rime" "kärpänen" = "fly" (insect) "epäjärjestelmällistyttämättömyydellänsäkäänköhän" -> the legendary longest word in Finnish. + bonusword: "perkele" -> just for fun, haha PS. I could even include this as a hidden track to my next album.
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Post by MaliceGarden on Mar 30, 2005 17:39:39 GMT 2
thks!
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Post by Hellga on Mar 30, 2005 17:41:32 GMT 2
no idea what it means the last letter.! so bad.. i just know speak very well my language, my english is slutty! swedish i just know to say : Hej! Hur mår du?? and its very easy... Italian, i just say: Ciao, come va? pffff..... WTF
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Post by frostheim on Mar 30, 2005 17:44:24 GMT 2
no idea what it means the last letter.! I just recorded some examples for the pronounciation for the letter ä [æ], check out the link above.
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Post by Hellga on Mar 30, 2005 17:51:47 GMT 2
I just recorded some examples for the pronounciation for the letter ä [æ], check out the link above. yah honey, i saw but the problem is i don't have idea what its the pronunciation of ae or whatever
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Post by frostheim on Mar 30, 2005 18:09:03 GMT 2
yah honey, i saw but the problem is i don't have idea what its the pronunciation of ae or whatever It's the same as "ä". The letter "æ" is used in the Norwegian, Danish, Islandic and Faroese, but it's also used as an universal phonetic symbol in linguistics when officially describing the pronounciation of "ä", and the letter "æ" is thus marked inside the brackets -> [ ]. The symbol ":" in phonetical writing is used to describe that the pronounciation is long, ie. "aa" is described as [a:] and so on.
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Post by Humppaporo on Mar 30, 2005 18:11:32 GMT 2
@frostheim: Thanks a lot, You're the best!
I have to leave now, will check it later this evening!
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Post by MaliceGarden on Mar 30, 2005 18:14:47 GMT 2
i listened to it. the long word is really funny. it seems taht you were tired of saying the word.
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Post by frostheim on Mar 30, 2005 18:16:29 GMT 2
it seems taht you were tired of saying the word. Haha, indeed! ;D
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Post by Hellga on Mar 30, 2005 19:08:34 GMT 2
It's the same as "ä". The letter "æ" is used in the Norwegian, Danish, Islandic and Faroese, but it's also used as an universal phonetic symbol in linguistics when officially describing the pronounciation of "ä", and the letter "æ" is thus marked inside the brackets -> [ ]. The symbol ":" in phonetical writing is used to describe that the pronounciation is long, ie. "aa" is described as [a:] and so on. mmmky, at least i have some idea what are u talking about now...! you are cool man..!
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