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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 30, 2004 20:29:38 GMT 2
try jordi savall. he is a guy that manages an orchestra called "hisperion XXI", if i'm not mistaken. they interpret medieval, barroc(probably is not well written) and other stuff.
i superb voice is azam ali. she interpreted some old songs from some places in europe. i have a song from her called "aj ondas do mar de Vigo"(the waves of the sea of Vigo), which dave could translate better then me as it is spanish. this song is based on a poem of a kind of genre of poetry that translated from portuguese is "friend's chantings"(romantic stuff, yuck) with more than 800years or a little bit less.my accuracy is not guaranteed, because i can really remember the dates. but its near. anyway, the song is very slow, but very cool.
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Post by DaveTheRake on Nov 30, 2004 21:19:41 GMT 2
Well, the problem is that surely it will be written in old Spanish (at least the tittle is), hence it's kinda illejible for me; I tried with "como poden" by In Extremo and taken from "Cantigas a Santa Maria" (chantings to Saint Mary Virgin) and it was impossible, although it's I think from XIIC and the "cantigas de amigo" that you say are from XIII, if I'm not wrong. Anyway, in Old Spanish, a century of difference is just as ten years in today's
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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 30, 2004 21:29:28 GMT 2
yes, i'm talking about "cantigas de amigo". i just meant to translate the title.
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Post by Hittavainen on Nov 30, 2004 22:53:58 GMT 2
You ARE evil, Hitta! Watch this: .. I WON! I WON! ;D ;D A free sauna evening with uncle Satan's demon-whores and a pair of red plastic horns! Hell yeah! ;D What I can't believe is that a band like Korpiklaani may be called nazi Believe or not, I have even heard of a swedish folk band being called "a nazi band", propably just because some skinheads listen to them. And when it comes to (true) metal, it would perhaps be easier to name a major band that ISN'T been suspected of nazism. Personally I think that declaring yourself not being nazi, especially when there's only some petty rumours pointing to that direction, just serves the hypocrisy. Anyone with normal brains in his head will realize what kind of band for example Korpiklaani is by him/herself. And what are those "bad nazis" anyway, who constantly cause such a noise? A bunch of bald glue-sniffing punk listeners and a handful of intellectuals who are obsessed with some early 20th century theories?
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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 30, 2004 22:56:30 GMT 2
HEY! I RESENT THAT! :]
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Post by Grimner on Dec 1, 2004 0:41:41 GMT 2
Maybe the best thing a band may do, in case they want to use all this symbology is, as very well has ShamanruneDancer said, to have a banner or a declaration against nazism; but this makes me think on the conversations I've got with my mother about the Basque problem; she says that all Basques who appear on Tv and so on must declare strongly that they're against ETA terrorism, and I always say that just for being Basque nobody must be obligated to show his/her political ideology... and so maybe with bands using the Germanic mithology. Kinda hard matter, don't you think? I don't know what to think, sorry. Well, Skyforger have that. Their logo includes a Swastika, and they always get shit for that. As a result, all Skyforger albums have a sticker detaching themselves from any Nazism connections, and a similar statement is made on the band's forum. From the pissed off tone of the band in that statement, it must not be the first time they got that. But what was said above is right, a swastika or a Rune are not something that has anything to do with Nazism in and of itself. If anything, Hitler was smart in choosing a symbol that is as old as Europe itself. I mean, when me and Sethlad went to some roman ruins to take pics, here's one of the first things we found: img.photobucket.com/albums/v398/grimner/Swastikas.jpg (linked because of the huge size of the pic.) It's a bit like the KKK, they wear a lot of christian iconography, but we can't judge all of christianity just because a bunch of fanatics from hillbilly America use the cross.
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Post by Grimner on Dec 1, 2004 0:57:47 GMT 2
Well, the problem is that surely it will be written in old Spanish (at least the tittle is), hence it's kinda illejible for me; I tried with "como poden" by In Extremo and taken from "Cantigas a Santa Maria" (chantings to Saint Mary Virgin) and it was impossible, although it's I think from XIIC and the "cantigas de amigo" that you say are from XIII, if I'm not wrong. Anyway, in Old Spanish, a century of difference is just as ten years in today's Actually, those poems by Afonso "el Sabio", if you compare them to those of D. Diniz, the portuguese king who ruled at around the same time, you will see that the language is practically the same. Those songs are actually closer in form to portuguese than they are to spanish. The language used then by the king of castille was a dialect we now call Galaico portuguese, and it was the common language spoken in the north of Portugal, Galicia, and Leon. What we now call "Spanish" or Castillian is a later language, and was only institutionalised after the Catholic Kings Fernando and Isabel.
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Post by MaliceGarden on Dec 1, 2004 1:07:33 GMT 2
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Post by feanor on Dec 1, 2004 10:53:57 GMT 2
Well, i'll take the thread for it's original topic: In Israel, as far as i know, there aren't any folk bands, and it's very sad, but in Russia(Where i was born), there are quite allot of good Folk/Pagan Metal Bands: TEMNOZOR: (site is only in Russian, sorry). www.thepaganfront.com/temnozor/temnozor.htmTHis band had a very good debute album By Sorcery Is Strong the Dark Glory of Russia(Which is now re-released in europe, by the name "Sorcery of Fragments". The re-edition has an EP by the band in the end of it, which sucks badly), but lately the band members went into Nazism, and they prefer singing about how Jews sucks, and forget to think that they also must play good music. BUTTERFLY TEMPLE listen.to/btemple/A great Pagan/Folk Metal band PAGAN REIGN pagan-reign.musica.mustdie.ru/A very good Pagan/Folk/Black metal band. Thedebute album wasn't very good, but the two later albums are much better. P.S. I guess you won\t be able to find these bands in your local Music shop, but you can download all their albums from eMule, and other P2P Programs.
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Post by Scalawag on Dec 1, 2004 11:42:46 GMT 2
Temnozor? UNGH No thanx! I don't care how good their music might be, stupid bastards stay stupid bastards.... somebody ought at least explain to all slavonic nazi bands that that stupid little fuckup with an even stupider moustache wanted to exterminate all Slavs... what's next? Nazis in Izrael? Black KKK members? Alas the little scumfuck eventually said, when he finally recognised he was gonna loose the war, that the Germans can all die as far as he was concerned as they are unfit to wage war for survival of the fittest. I'd like to hear some good russian folk-metal though.
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Post by MaliceGarden on Dec 1, 2004 15:54:13 GMT 2
Pagan reign is nice. you can download songs from their site.
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Post by feanor on Dec 1, 2004 16:00:16 GMT 2
Temnozor? UNGH No thanx! I don't care how good their music might be, stupid bastards stay stupid bastards.... somebody ought at least explain to all slavonic nazi bands that that stupid little fuckup with an even stupider moustache wanted to exterminate all Slavs... what's next? Nazis in Izrael? Black KKK members? Alas the little scumfuck eventually said, when he finally recognised he was gonna loose the war, that the Germans can all die as far as he was concerned as they are unfit to wage war for survival of the fittest. I do agree with you, but still, their first album is very good, with no nazi ideas in it, i think they went into this stupid Nazi thing later, and then they began to suck. P.S. I know one nazi girl in Israel.
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Post by MaliceGarden on Dec 1, 2004 16:08:54 GMT 2
LOL! thats good. to be nazi in Israel. :]
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Post by HerraHirwi on Dec 1, 2004 16:19:46 GMT 2
Aside of good Russian folk music, there's also many Finno-Ugric, Turkic and Siberian folk/ethno music, which fascinates me the most. Here's some links: HUUN HUUR TU ( www.huunhuurtu.com/) Huun-Huur-Tu (Tuvinian: xün xürtü) literally means "sun propeller." The vertical separation of light rays that often occurs just after sunrise or just before sunset. For the members of Huun-Huur-Tu, the refraction of light that produces these rays seems analogous to the "refraction" of sound that produces articulated harmonics in Tuvinian throat-singing. MYLLÄRIT: ( www.myllarit.ru/) A good Karelian folk rock band, which represents old Karelian, Finnish, Ingrian and Russian folksongs with rock attitude. A strong band, one of my own influences. SANTTU KARHU JA TALVISOVAT ( heninen.net/talvisovat/suomeksi.htm) A folk rock from Karelia too. Here are same members involved in this band, as Myllärit too. TOORAMA ( www.torama.ru/eng) Toorama is a musical group specializing in the traditional polyphonic songs of the Erzyan, Mokshan, Shokshan and Karatai Mordvinians. Those Finno-Ugric peoples live in the Autonomic Republic of Mordovia in Russia. YAT-KHA ( www.yat-kha.com) One of my absolutely favourites!! A Tuvinian ethno-rock band, whose music bases on Tuvinian and Khakassian throat-singing!!
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Post by ShamanRunedancer on Dec 1, 2004 18:02:58 GMT 2
: TEMNOZOR: (site is only in Russian, sorry). www.thepaganfront.com/temnozor/temnozor.htmTHis band had a very good debute album By Sorcery Is Strong the Dark Glory of Russia(Which is now re-released in europe, by the name "Sorcery of Fragments". The re-edition has an EP by the band in the end of it, which sucks badly), but lately the band members went into Nazism, and they prefer singing about how Jews sucks, and forget to think that they also must play good music. Holy shit!They are nazis? I just bought a CD but I will put it in the dustbin or destroy it or somthing like this!Thanks for the info!
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