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Post by strujka on May 1, 2009 6:18:40 GMT 2
There are many Thracian tombs and places of worship in Bulgaria. In fact, it is believed by some that the grave of Orpheus is in Perperikon - a famous ancient Thracian city in the Rhodope mountains :]
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Post by Mighty Croc on May 1, 2009 7:21:44 GMT 2
There are very many pagan places in Karelia and Siberia... But the prior pagan place for you must be deep in your heart.
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2009 16:45:01 GMT 2
There are many Thracian tombs and places of worship in Bulgaria. In fact, it is believed by some that the grave of Orpheus is in Perperikon - a famous ancient Thracian city in the Rhodope mountains :] Yeah, they say that about Orpheus... We have common Thracian roots and indeed there are many things to debate upon that topic. Here in Romania , if I am to choose a special place, I`d choose first Sarmisegetusa....the old Dacian spiritual cradle...
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Post by rhiannon on May 1, 2009 20:15:47 GMT 2
Forget Stonehenge. One beautiful place in England is Avebury. I presume it is pagan. It's made of two circles of menhirs and was built about 2500 b.C. I personaly felt very moved when I was there. In summer they also allways have crop circles appear nearby. And still nobody can explain where they come from... Canyon de Chelly in the US is another very mistic place I have visited. It's in Arizona on the Navaho reservation.
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Post by Ǽcen on May 2, 2009 6:28:30 GMT 2
There's a trail near my home where there are supposedly Indian archaeological sites (one of the tribes in the Powhatan Confederacy I think...), but the government doesn't mark them, so no one can find them (and presumably disturb or deface them). I've found a few stone arrowheads back there, but I've never come across anything bigger.
These are interesting from a historical standpoint, but I need to travel to Europe to find the pagan places of my ancestors...
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Post by branigan on May 2, 2009 18:39:39 GMT 2
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavener_Runestone This is a place that my husband has visited and I plan on visiting within the next couple of months. There is some speculation as to its authenticity, but a lot of heathens gather there for Blót. Anyway, the story behind it is pretty interesting.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2009 18:46:12 GMT 2
I am not pleased with my previous post here, and the poster l have in my front of my eyes now (with warriors in the ancient ,,romanian" territory...see http://www.historyarts.ro) made me write here again. So: l haven't said that the Thracian tribes of Gets and Dacians left us rich beautiful heritages (pottery's the greatest imo) and that l have a special afinity for the old sites from Transylvania....where there's a celtic influence, as the Celts came there in the middle of the 4th century BC..
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Post by wolferin on May 9, 2009 10:27:38 GMT 2
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2009 13:40:02 GMT 2
Thanks for sharing pix!
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Post by Heer E. Tik on May 10, 2009 8:03:50 GMT 2
There are very many pagan places in Karelia and Siberia... But the prior pagan place for you must be deep in your heart. Very well said... I think thus also, and this is what I'm trying to remind anyone who is so eager to find a "more" pagan place. Once there is room for this inside the person, the internalized awareness of the world as a primordial, living force, then any place can become a pagan place... Any spot of nature, any place with trees or where the grass grows. I live in a city (not a big one, but still a city), and fortunately there is alot of green on the streets - trees planted along sidewalks, green grasses of lawns, some parks and empty stretches of land. So what if nothing historically "significant" and "pagan" happened here? When I see those nature spots, something awakens inside me... Those landscapes, those trees awake a sense of something bigger, older, and more spiritual than what this reality seems. Come to think of it, North America used to be covered with trees - and before there was a city here, it was land full of trees and lakes and rivers. Everything resonates with those echoes that will not go away. Will never go away. I've read somewhere that North American continent used to be attached to Asia before the ice glaciers melted at the end of Ice Age and altered the shape of the world. Then it shares its primordial essense with Siberia, if it used to be part of the same land mass. The primeval North, the magnetic North, with vibrations in the air that may overwhelm, even terrify someone with the power of this Nature. I find that I do not even seek out any particularly "pagan" place that I can go here - for me, the land itself still vibrates with its echoes from the time immemorial, and any nearby forest is a portal into the Inner Wilderness, where time stands still and Nature's Cycle is the only constant. I have written a long essay about my trip to San Francisco's largest forest/park, and the experiences of the primordial nature that overwhelmed me there. If any of you would like to read it, PM me and I will send it. It's always great to share experiences with like-minded folks.
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Post by Bartbär on May 10, 2009 20:56:39 GMT 2
I too live in a fairly large city, and yet the spirit of paganism has not died in me. No matter how many buildings continue to go up around me, I'll still feel the presence of nature with the few birds chirping in the morning, and when the clouds overhead blanket the city with rain. We forget that nature is constantly around us, we are never seperated from it. Although it can be hard for others to distinguish, and it does teach many people to have little to no respect for primordial spots of nature, but these are outsiders from ourselves and so thus cannot be counted for what is personal.
I do feel that spots with more nature would awaken that feeling even more, but until that time I am comfortable with what I have. The occasional trip to fellowship with friends, to take a walk through a park, or to simply sit out in the backyard with a guitar and the songs in my heart is all I need to feel that Heathen spirit reawaken.
Although I would indeed and do indeed plan on visiting these historical pagan spots, I know that it is not necessary to keep my spirit where it is. Pilgrimage always exists within the heart of the wanderer.
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Post by wolferin on May 11, 2009 9:32:29 GMT 2
Another pagan place connected with the ancient Thracians - Begliktash (or Beglik Tash) From Wikipedia: Beglik Tash is a Thracian rock sanctuary situated on the southern Black Sea coast of Bulgaria, near the city of Primorsko. Beglik Tash is a natural phenomenon of huge megaliths carved by a Thracian tribe and later used for pagan ceremonies. It is part of a wider surrounding area and a natural rock formation of huge monolithic blocks of volcanic origin, and were formed of hardened magma that erupted from a volcano active during the Mesozoic era. Currently, an open-air museum is maintained by the Burgas Historical Society. Most of the megaliths have traces of carvings for the purposes of Thracian rituals. There are also the remains of a labyrinth that visitors can pass through. A Thracian sun clock is also visible on one of the stones. This is an album of my pictures, made a week ago, on May 3rd 2009, when I visited this place. www.snimka.bg/album.php?album_id=375959
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2009 17:14:11 GMT 2
Beautiful pix! A friend of mine wanted to go there last year ,but he didn't...anyway, tis not that far so maybe one day... Btw Wolferin: what else do you recommend?
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Post by Kirki on May 24, 2009 18:12:51 GMT 2
I have been to stonehenge....even though no one is allowed to walk into the circle anymore.
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Post by wolferin on May 24, 2009 23:37:20 GMT 2
I have been to stonehenge....even though no one is allowed to walk into the circle anymore. Did you make pictures, or they are not allowed?
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