Crystiannia
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Post by Crystiannia on Sept 29, 2009 7:41:01 GMT 2
The Catholic High School that my friend went to had a mandatory class on "World Religions" which, believe it or not, actually was very open minded and non-derrogatory. I got to read through the textbook for the class and it was surprisingly unbiased. Although I'm heathen, I may still send my son to Catholic school. The quality of education there, at least in our area, is above average (and as a parent the thought of not having to pick out clothes in the morning rocks! ;D ). And while I was still attending church in our community, I found the parishoners and clergy to be most excepting and free thinking. Although I'd love to strictly raise my little einherjar as a Norse Heathen, I also want him to learn enough about other religions and cultures in order to find the path that best calls to him. wolferin: We could do a compare and contrast thread for various religions! LOL! Christianity vs Satanism? Buddhism vs Islam? Or my personal favorite... Norse vs Wiccan! But all in good faith!!!
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Post by kuusuru on Sept 29, 2009 10:00:06 GMT 2
Although I'm heathen, I may still send my son to Catholic school. The quality of education there, at least in our area, is above average (and as a parent the thought of not having to pick out clothes in the morning rocks! ;D ). And while I was still attending church in our community, I found the parishoners and clergy to be most excepting and free thinking. Although I'd love to strictly raise my little einherjar as a Norse Heathen, I also want him to learn enough about other religions and cultures in order to find the path that best calls to him. Everyone in my family has had a secular education - but my daughter actually wanted to go to a private school (there's gang activities around here), and the local Catholic was the closest (and cheapest ) so that's where she's ended up. She loves it, she's not a practising catholic and that's OK by them, they teach values without ramming theology down their throat. And it's cool to drop her off with songs like "Hold the Heathen Hammer High" and "Köyliönjärven Jäällä" blaring out the windows ;D For the record, I'm an angry agnostic - I don't know who made this world, but I'm mad as hell at them for making it this way.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2009 11:07:15 GMT 2
Ha! I used to be an angry agnostic too at 19 or sth like that,hehe...so I can understand why one is like that, Kuusuru. Now, being a bit off topic (and not quite), I believe both you and Crys are great kewl parents to raise your kids like that Indeed tis wonderful that at those schools they only teach and not preach. As that's the key to a good education.
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Post by Bartbär on Sept 29, 2009 16:15:58 GMT 2
I'm very happy as well that you have found a good Catholic school that teaches them well without forcing Catholicism down their throat. That is what it should always be about, no matter what the belief system and no matter what the student. I had a hard time in Catholic school as a child, but that was because they did push religion on to me. At that time I was Catholic, although I don't even know if that is accurate because I was a child, and to me it is impossibly for a child to truly understand and hold beliefs of religion (granted some children do seem to understand it better than adults, so it depends), but anyways, it was still over-the-top for me. Too much preaching for my tastes. Granted this was the type of school that you pretty much didn't take your kids to unless you wanted them to be Catholic. Although in the end my parents ended up not being able to take us because they couldn't afford to pay the rest of their bill, which took out however much percentage of their income. Happily though, that sparked us to move to the place we are now, and although I'm not a fan of this city a lot of great things have come out of it so I do not complain in the long run of things.
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Post by wolferin on Sept 29, 2009 17:19:05 GMT 2
Although I'd love to strictly raise my little einherjar as a Norse Heathen, I also want him to learn enough about other religions and cultures in order to find the path that best calls to him. We must not impose our believes to our children, but to learn them to think and to have broad mind, so they can chose as you've written. Some of the free minded people fancy paganism, because association with freedom is made. wolferin: We could do a compare and contrast thread for various religions! LOL! Christianity vs Satanism? Buddhism vs Islam? Or my personal favorite... Norse vs Wiccan! But all in good faith!!! Hahaha, you're great optimist these "fights" to stay all in good faith, but we can try. ;D First we'd better find 1-2 fanatics from some protestant sect and 1-2 Wicca fanatics. Then to leave them write and write. Here comes the time to throw the bomb - to mention something else - Odin or Perun, it doesn't matter. The result will be hot "word battle", the end - may be bans for everybody. ;D ;D ;D And now seriously - it will be interesting Norse vs Wiccan, but I see no Wiccan here. As up to me - I have a religion of my own, I respect any faith and choise. From the heathen I like Norse and Slavonic.
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Post by Crystiannia on Oct 2, 2009 4:32:21 GMT 2
I have always thought, it is not the religion itself that causes issue, but the followers. As there are zealots to every cause who only wish to see one way. It is a great wide world of varied races and cultures. Why can there not be such a variance of deities as well? wolferin: We need to create then a panel and have representation from all! LOL! ;D
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Post by wolferin on Oct 2, 2009 7:06:18 GMT 2
I have always thought, it is not the religion itself that causes issue, but the followers. And also the interpretation of the "words of God" of the later followers and writers of the holly books, etc. wolferin: We need to create then a panel and have representation from all! LOL! ;D Hahaha, it's again risky - just can't get rid of a sermon from some of them. ;D
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Post by hemmelig on Oct 13, 2009 14:29:08 GMT 2
I am not agnostic... I am just confused.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2009 22:49:29 GMT 2
Im just little human on this "huge" planet and i dont believe in christianty god or any these religions. Im sure that i never will be christian, jew, muslim or hindu or any of those.
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Post by bielasova on Jan 29, 2010 19:20:35 GMT 2
started in another thread- and moved over here: bielasova, I think your nick is not casually chosen, "white owl". Well, some thoughts came to me, but may be some thinks you do not like to discus in public and I don't know to ask them or not? So I'll ask something else, may be this is not exactly the right thread, but... What do you think about the theory of the positive way of thinking? I myself am a great fan of it. Ok, well you can ask me anything you want. If you're unsure of asking publicly, you can send me a private message, and I'll answer you there! Im a very open person! and yes, you are right, the name was not casually chosen... Positive thinking (and also the law of thought) are HUGE to me! I am a very big fan of positive thinking! Too many times with myself, and with others Ive seen it work, as well as when people think negatively, how bad things tend to happen. I totally believe in this! And the law of thought. Basically, if you have the thought, in some way you are giving it birth to the universe, and that the universe listens and can then set that thought into motion. Kind of like, wish carefully, because what you wish for may come true? That one, I learned the hard way!!!
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Post by wolferin on Apr 3, 2010 23:24:07 GMT 2
For those who celebrate - Happy Easter! Christ has resurrected! It is well known - Easter is an adopted pagan holiday of spring and female beginning in nature. Even the name in English in form a pagan goddess (Celtic, of spring, as far as I remember). I think it is a holiday of everybody - christians, heathens, agnostics, atheists - everybody needs recovering, spring and new hope.
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Post by kuusuru on Apr 4, 2010 0:05:04 GMT 2
For those who celebrate - Happy Easter! Christ has resurrected! It is well known - Easter is an adopted pagan holiday of spring and female beginning in nature. Even the name in English in form a pagan goddess (Celtic, of spring, as far as I remember). I think it is a holiday of everybody - christians, heathens, agnostics, atheists - everybody needs recovering, spring and new hope. I work But I celebrate - with Glittertind and Falkenbach and Korpiklaani and Kiuas
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Post by wolferin on Apr 4, 2010 0:13:16 GMT 2
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2010 15:16:40 GMT 2
For those who celebrate - Happy Easter! Christ has resurrected! It is well known - Easter is an adopted pagan holiday of spring and female beginning in nature. Even the name in English in form a pagan goddess (Celtic, of spring, as far as I remember). I think it is a holiday of everybody - christians, heathens, agnostics, atheists - everybody needs recovering, spring and new hope. I work But I celebrate - with Glittertind and Falkenbach and Korpiklaani and Kiuas Ja, Happy Easter to everyone no matter the religious views... Think I lost my own views upon that ;D but it doesn't matter. No love lost! Even attended the service..and felt like a tourist,which was pretty nice. I don't work! ;D Not today,and not the week that follows either,and that help my celebrating views to come up to surface ...and celebrate with friends, family and great music too... something I wish for all of you.
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Post by abaldrich on Apr 18, 2010 0:16:58 GMT 2
I am a catholic. When I was 16 I wanted to find a religion, so I spent a whole year reading every religion's philosophy and spiritual practices. To be honest I only considered abahamic religions, but i dont regret it. The first I discarded was islam, because it is too physical: paradise is a place where you get women (42 virgins if you die in the jihad). but if i'm going to a physical place I'd prefer to honour Oden and go to Valhal. ;D Then I considered judaism. Here in Argentina jews are not like in Israel, in fact, I know many who actually returned from Israel. Jews here are great people who actually help others and contribute to society, and the fact that they keep their culture after thousands of years of exile is astonishing. They are more open minded, and are not trying to conquer a lebensraum in middle east. I'd say they are peaceful, that's the key word. But there were a number of factors that didn't convince me, like having to give up part of my flesh in an area that I don't want to risk. So after that I considered chrisitanity. It made me read a lot. I think read over three thousand pages of theology in four months, and on the final days I chose catholicism over greek orthodoxy. (I had chosen the "official" church one month before, but still had to find which "brand" was better for me). Since I was already baptised, I only had to go speak with a priest and, well, now I'm a catholic. The Catholic High School that my friend went to had a mandatory class on "World Religions" which, believe it or not, actually was very open minded and non-derrogatory. I got to read through the textbook for the class and it was surprisingly unbiased. Although I'm heathen, I may still send my son to Catholic school. The quality of education there, at least in our area, is above average (and as a parent the thought of not having to pick out clothes in the morning rocks! ;D ). And while I was still attending church in our community, I found the parishoners and clergy to be most excepting and free thinking. Although I'd love to strictly raise my little einherjar as a Norse Heathen, I also want him to learn enough about other religions and cultures in order to find the path that best calls to him. wolferin: We could do a compare and contrast thread for various religions! LOL! Christianity vs Satanism? Buddhism vs Islam? Or my personal favorite... Norse vs Wiccan! But all in good faith!!! Here in Argentina there are a lot of catholic schools, in my neighbourhood there are 4 public schools, 2 ensligh schools, one german school and 3 catholic schools. It's nice because there are many different types of catholic schools. In some, you study theology as a subject, separated from philosophy. In others its just a private school run by priests or nuns. Of course, most catholics are not really practising. Those who are, however, are very devout. I think it's better: those who claim to be christians are really active in the community; those who aren't, only claim to be so in the population census.
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