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Post by frostheim on Jan 31, 2006 14:11:25 GMT 2
Sounds most likely that it surely is a kind of wooden seita statue afterall. However, the seita belief has not got any relation with the mentioned "mother earth" -thematics, which for it's part derived from a completely different culture and region.
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Post by Humppaporo on Jan 31, 2006 14:55:58 GMT 2
I don't know much about these things, but I've always understood that a seita is a stone, tree, piece of wood shaped as a human by nature, not made by man. Can you tell me more? Man made statues existed?
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Post by HerraHirwi on Jan 31, 2006 15:48:24 GMT 2
I don't know much about these things, but I've always understood that a seita is a stone, tree, piece of wood shaped as a human by nature, not made by man. Can you tell me more? Man made statues existed? You're right. Usually seita is a stone with unusual figure, not made by man, but there are some wooden seitas (made by man) too. We spoke about them in our course, which dealed with Sámi native religion and way too see the world.
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Post by frostheim on Jan 31, 2006 15:51:04 GMT 2
I don't know much about these things, but I've always understood that a seita is a stone, tree, piece of wood shaped as a human by nature, not made by man. Can you tell me more? Man made statues existed? Man-made (most usually wooden) seitas were used as a substitute in those cases when there weren't any suitable "nature-made" seitas available. And it goes without saying that these substitutes weren't ever as powerful as the more "real-ones".
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Post by icydragon on Mar 3, 2006 21:15:21 GMT 2
Louhi - a queen of Pohjola. ummmm, whhere/what is Pohjola? (sorry i dont know ¬¬') is it like valhalla(vikings)?
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Post by frostheim on Mar 4, 2006 14:04:19 GMT 2
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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 25, 2006 16:54:04 GMT 2
Pellonpekko - a god of ale God of ale? What about god of vodka?
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Post by frostheim on Mar 25, 2006 18:26:56 GMT 2
Pellonpekko - a god of ale God of ale? What about god of vodka? All in all these "gods" in "Finnish mythology" are somewhat of newer origin and thus very questionable and dubious anyway; many of the names (not all however!) and even characters known for the most have been nothing more but just originated and formed in the researchers own minds before getting them on the paper; in addition, much depends also on what time period is in question: The earlier hunter-gatherer culture (which was proto-Finnic, thus not yet Finnish) didn't recognize any "gods" inspite of all the spirits etc. within the nature and surroundings, as the image of the world and all the existence was namely animistic, shamanistic and totemistic, and thus not polyteistic like in the much later agricultural form of mythologies and the culture as a whole. The gods and alike considered to belong to the "Finnish culture" have come to exist first along the agriculture and it's mythology that were both adapted from the proto-Balts. What it then comes to (stronger) alcoholic liquids, it was mainly the Slavs (Russians to be exact) who introduced those to the Uralic peoples, thus there's no "god of vodka" or anything such related to any Finno-Ugric cultures. Alcoholism is one of the most difficult and worst problems for nearly all the indigenous people of the arctic regions nowadays.
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Post by swordmaiden on Mar 25, 2006 23:19:01 GMT 2
ah i see....very interesting For some reason my Byzantine History teacher Professor Roth is convinced that the Rus' were originally a Viking tribe that had adopted a Slavic language etc. As far as I know, a group of mainly Swedish Vikings did settle in the early Kievian State and this State was briefly rulled by a Swedish Viking but I can't rememeber his name, and a few after him for about 100 years or so. Those Vikings did assimilate into the Slavic culture and even protected Kiev from other Vikings, which was funny. So is this true that possibly the Rus' were Vikings, or is my poor teacher just confused? I always thought that the Rus' were Slavic besides that small group of Vikings. Then again, I am still in the process of researching this further, so who knows
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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 26, 2006 12:33:51 GMT 2
Question about vikings in Rus' is one of the 'morbid' questions in Russian historiography. Some historians think, vikings were Rus' founders, others assert, what northerners bore no relation to Rus'. This debate is being begun in the eighteenth century. By the way, Russian monk-chronicler Nestor has written, one of the Varangian tribes was called "rus'"
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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 28, 2006 5:48:52 GMT 2
Recently I've heard Nightwish' song Etiainen(or Etiäinen). I have known, Etiainen is errant spirit Do anybody know more about him?
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Post by Nordis on Mar 28, 2006 15:15:03 GMT 2
Recently I've heard Nightwish' song Etiainen(or Etiäinen). I have known, Etiainen is errant spirit Do anybody know more about him? I don't know if etiäinen was considered as a spirit, but it means a kind of uncontrolled foretelling. You may i.e. hear that someone is at your door but see no-one, and the visitors might appear 10 minutes after you heard the sounds. The sound or vision caused by no-one is called etiäinen.
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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 29, 2006 8:32:36 GMT 2
Kiitos, Nordi! hm...I've never clashed with that phenomenon.
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Apr 8, 2006 13:57:52 GMT 2
i have just tried to research about Pellonpekko and all i get is korpiklaani i have tried every search criteria and searched online librarys- has any body got brief information (virva i have tried searching everywhere mate) sorry
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Post by Heiðinn Hermaðr on Apr 8, 2006 14:17:13 GMT 2
i have just tried to research about Pellonpekko and all i get is korpiklaani i have tried every search criteria and searched online librarys- has any body got brief information (virva i have tried searching everywhere mate) sorry This might help: Pellonpekko
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