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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 9, 2006 14:45:19 GMT 2
Can you tell me, what is the freedom?
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Post by HerraHirwi on Mar 9, 2006 15:15:13 GMT 2
Can you tell me, what is the freedom? Can you? No offence, but when you're starting a new topic with such an issue, you should tell your own point of view also in the first post. Just a question is not enough; there's no point to ask if you're not ready to give an own answer to it. It's lot more interesting to read topic with opinions too, isn't it?
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Post by teuton on Mar 9, 2006 15:33:40 GMT 2
Can you tell me, what is the freedom? Can you? No offence, but when you're starting a new topic with such an issue, you should tell your own point of view also in the first post. Just a question is not enough; there's no point to ask if you're not ready to give an own answer to it. It's lot more interesting to read topic with opinions too, isn't it? Oh well, it would have been better if she gave her own point of view, but concerning philosophical issues it can be even more interesting if you just pose the question. Since the following will be the first opinion in here, there is no more reason to complain about ;D So: Freedom is something essential for humans. A human has to be in charge of freedom to spread his creativity, his ideas, otherwise he will be unhappy. For a life in order, there has to be a certain force, f.e. work. But beside this human beings realize themselves mostly by living up their freedom by doing what they want to do and what makes them happy. Freedom is, beside of fidelity, one of the most important values for humans.
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Post by jarmo on Mar 9, 2006 16:42:11 GMT 2
Freedom, it's quite a hard one. I think freedom is the ability to make a world the way you want it. I think it's more a virtual thing than reality. Animals have more freedom than people... they can go where they want...
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Post by janneke on Mar 9, 2006 17:08:42 GMT 2
Freedom has a different meaning for everyone, there is not one and only good description
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Post by HerraHirwi on Mar 9, 2006 17:51:16 GMT 2
Since the following will be the first opinion in here, there is no more reason to complain about ;D I don't know where you ripped that out, that my comment concerning general thread opening structure would be opinion about freedom. It has nothing to do with it. As I just happen to saw a question without any deeper comments in it, I thought it best as a moderator to point out of it. You have thus no reason nor afford to play smartass with me. Keep that in mind. No offence to a starter of this thread, but this is once again excellent example about quite a senseless topics, which I've seen many times before along these many years, I've written in public forums. First you have a thought: "Let's start this thread, so we can get more intelligent discussion". Then you pick a subject which theme is a hard nut to crack even for those, who are specialists with this kind of philosophical issues, not to mention that many of regular band board users would happen to have something new to give to it. Because of this, topic usually more or less dries out, and then you once again wonder why there's no intelligent discussion in here.
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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 9, 2006 19:18:57 GMT 2
Can you? Well, freedom is that, without which my life changes into pitiful existence. It`s one of the most important things in my life. Personally for me, freedom is always combined with journey. That is all for now.
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Post by MaliceGarden on Mar 9, 2006 22:17:30 GMT 2
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Post by teuton on Mar 9, 2006 22:23:35 GMT 2
Thanks a lot! Gives many new ideas
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Post by ina on Mar 10, 2006 0:01:43 GMT 2
eto ochen horoshii vopros, noaide!
What is the greatest freedom to one can be a prison to the others. It depents of a persons character, culture, ideals, how you've been raised...on everything. Some of the greatest leaders in the history really wanted to give their people a thing they called freedom but ended up to take it away from them...Freedom is not a simple thing to acceef because we all have such different views about it. So many nations have decited to give their citizens "a common freedom" to do as they want if it's not against the law. The question is is too much freedom only a bad thing? What would we do if we could just do whatever we want and wherever we want? We would destroy our selves and the others as well. I've also discussed about this subject with few religious people...their "freedom" is so different from mine. The rules bring them their freedom. And that's really confusing.
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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 10, 2006 14:55:33 GMT 2
I've also discussed about this subject with few religious people...their "freedom" is so different from mine. The rules bring them their freedom. And that's really confusing. The rules bring them their freedom?! It`s absurdity! Religious men are very strange...
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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 10, 2006 20:06:33 GMT 2
Animals have more freedom than people... they can go where they want... But animals depend on people: men can kill defenceless animals!
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Post by swordmaiden on Mar 11, 2006 2:09:14 GMT 2
I think that there is no such think as complete freedom. There will always be consequences for your actions; either positive or negative; for benefit or for displeasure...etc. The responsibilty of your actions will always be there. "Freedom" is temporary and "in the moment." i will continue this later haha....i have to go now, but i'll be back muahaha
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Post by blueberry on Mar 12, 2006 15:53:29 GMT 2
Hmmm... Freedom? Lots of people forgot what the freedom means. It can be something "body freedom", when you aren't in prison, or you aren't slave of anybody. It's good, but in my opinion people can't live in totally freedom, when their soul can't fly with the fresh wind, because it's a prisoner of something boring and grey thing from the weekdays. So, if you want to live in a complete freedom, you have to brake every connection with the human world, and go far away from the noisy life to the wilderness. I believe once everybody will find the freedom, when the death will arrive. I think, when we die, we incorporate with the nature. Our body will rot, and our soul will fly, and alive with the rain, wind, or something like that. We will be free...
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Post by Kochevneg on Mar 13, 2006 12:17:19 GMT 2
Blueberry, not only death can bring the freedom. Look at my signature.
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