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Post by Bartbär on Jun 3, 2009 22:35:56 GMT 2
I apologize if a similar thread has been posted before, but I could not find anything through search, and figured this would be a good discussion topic. I have a deep love for Traditional instruments and traditional playing styles all across Europe, and due to some lack of acquired information in the states, I think it would be a good idea to have a thread for sharing your countries traditional Instruments, and hopefully where they can be acquired at. Please share any videos, songs (traditional or otherwise of course), and providers of your countries instruments. Or, if you know more about the instruments of another country, do not hesitate to share. obviously this is very loose and relaxed, any and all information is welcome. I'll start with a traditional instrument that sprang from the Appalachian mountains in North America, mainly amongst Irish and Scottish immigrants that settled there. It is akin to the "epinette des vosges" in France and the German "Scheitholt". It is the "Appalachian Dulcimer" or "Mountain Dulcimer". Very simple yet beautiful sounding instrument. Here is a nice video of the instrument being played, and quite flawlessly. www.youtube.com/watch?v=INu3UQ35yVkMore to come, just want to get it started for now.
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Post by strujka on Jun 4, 2009 4:50:07 GMT 2
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Post by Bartbär on Jun 4, 2009 5:25:45 GMT 2
Wow, those are very amazing! I've heard of the Gaida before, and have always loved what I've heard of it. Never seen this video though. I enjoy them all, and the Altai-Kai group I am really loving. The throat singing is truly astounding! It is sad to see a lack of traditional music luthiers and various other instrument makers. I want to learn instrument making, but here in the states there is virtually nothing in the way of European instruments (with a few exceptions). Understandable of course. If I had the connection I would travel across Europe just to learn the art of instrument making, and then use that teach others as well. It is one of my greatest passions right alongside Languages, but then again I guess it falls into that category too, after all, Music is the language of the universe. Thanks for sharing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2009 22:23:16 GMT 2
Hmm...we have caval here too, and also all kinds of similar instruments for whistling as they say. The bagpipes seem to be a rare presence lately (,cimpoi" ,pronounced ,cheempoii'). You should also check the mighty ,,tulnic" (toolnik). I'll search for sites with infos and post one of these days. Oh, or you can visit for example www.folkromania.com . Btw, Anwend ,check Grigore Lese on YouTube
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Post by strujka on Jun 4, 2009 23:12:11 GMT 2
Hmm...we have caval here too, and also all kinds of similar instruments for whistling as they say. The bagpipes seem to be a rare presence lately (,cimpoi" ,pronounced ,cheempoii'). You should also check the mighty ,,tulnic" (toolnik). I'll search for sites with infos and post one of these days. Oh, or you can visit for example www.folkromania.com . Btw, Anwend ,check Grigore Lese on YouTube I think that the Kaval was originally a Turkish (Ottoman; no wonder if it is Arabic aswell) instrument which we have adopted during the years :] Neverthless, it's an inseparable part of our (Balkan) folk music :]
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Post by Bartbär on Jun 4, 2009 23:29:43 GMT 2
Walkyrie, I'm listening to "Cântec de Cătănie" now by Grigore Lese, very wonderful! That tulnic is wonderful. At first site it reminds me of an Alphorn, a little similar in sound too, although naturally it's own sound is very distinct and original. I love it. I've only recently come across Balkan music, and have fallen in love with it. I've been interested in learning more about this region, especially since I have some Croatian roots and know very little about these areas and their history. It can just be hard to find much information in english unless you dig very deep. Now for one of my favorite instruments, of which I hope to learn how to make sometime within the next year or so. The Finnish Jouhikko: www.youtube.com/watch?v=n8BeaU1LOd8Whenever I see these videos I fall in love with their atmosphere. There is something about sitting in a cabin warming up in winter. Looking out across the frozen landscape and playing this instrument or a Kantele that I find absolutely amazing.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2009 6:42:11 GMT 2
strujka: l thought it has thracian origin..ya know, used by sheperds and so on. I am good at listening, don't have a big knowledge bout these things. But indeed, tis a part of our heritage here,though l must make a remark: here we consider to be influenced by balkan folklore and being a distinct country ,with another type of folk heritage. Tis a long talk .. maybe we'll explore it sometime.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2009 6:48:20 GMT 2
Bartbär: l am very glad you like it! that's an old song bout men having to go to war and leaving their families and what's implied in that leaving. I love Lese...he has a tv show broadcasted on the cultural channel here: he travels in the country and finds true beholders of our ancient traditions..mostly old people who are amazing! I'm sure we'll be bakk on him
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Post by Heer E. Tik on Jun 5, 2009 9:22:48 GMT 2
No post about folk instruments from Russia is complete without gusli Since I'm the first to post about Russian musical items, that's the one with which I'll start. It's a stringed harp-like instrument that is related to kantele, and their kind are the oldest musical instruments in the world, as many archaeologists now believe. Needless to say, it comes with many spiritual associations, and was the tool of the ancient bards and singers and tellers of tales, just as the kantele was in its own region. Gusli is quintessentially Slavic, just as much as the birch trees and the log houses with roosters carved on the cross-beams, it's inseparable from Slavic folklore because it was the means of passing on this folklore through oral performance... Brief intro can be found here: www.russia-ic.com/culture_art/traditions/561/You can wikipedia or youtube it for more, I'm not that keen on spending time on youtube so instead of the usual links I'll post a few pictures that shows the gusli in action. Guslyar (the gusli-player, but also practically synonymous with 'bard' or 'singer' at large) : Another one, on a plate done in traditional Russian palekh style: The past... And the present! (at the Moscow subway... damned if I didn't just get hit with a huge wave of nostalgia, I haven't seen the inside of a Moscow subway train since I was 11) If one wants to make their own gusli, here's a detailed instruction with photos, but... it's all in Russian! www.vargan.ru/gusli/made/made01_01.shtml
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2009 10:50:23 GMT 2
That's blasphemy! Hjalagh, blast from the past came to me: films from childhood with scenes where people were singing accompanied by those instruments. Also pictures from my russian story books..flashes, flashes! ;D ;D
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2009 12:44:51 GMT 2
What was l thinking and forgot about Cobza?!! Good you mentioned Gusli so that l recall the traditional romanian lute. For those interested: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cobza . A sound of the old times...
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Post by Bartbär on Jun 5, 2009 23:31:49 GMT 2
I will have to write more later on when I have the time. But I am glad you bring up the Gusli, Hjalagh. It is one of my favorite instruments. I just have some thing for Zither family instruments. Gusli, Kantele, you name it. Quickly though before I leave, a quick review of the Kokle: Latvian lap harp, very similar in construction with Kantele only with an extended neck and a little different tone. Again, one of my favorites. Here's a wonderful video by Laima Jansone. When I found this video I was absolutely spell-bound, and have since heard it over probably a thousand times. (wish I had more pics, but no time to search now.) www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAwRI1AhzvwAnd now in use by the great Skyforger, with the great acoustic performance of "Migla, migla, rasa, rasa" www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLRdaEfmNd0I'm not sure what the flute is called (I forgot the name sadly), nor the bowed instrument. If someone can remind me that would be much appreciated. Time to go, more later.
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Post by Bartbär on Jun 8, 2009 2:10:14 GMT 2
Was going to post this in "what are you listening to thread", but considering it incorporates the lovely Gusli and some wonderful Russian singing, I figured it was fitting here with Hjalagh's pics and discussion. (By the way, those are wonderful pics, I wish I had more pics to share, sadly I know of more things on youtube than wonderful and stirring pics and paintings...) Check out this users other videos, he has wonderful Gusli performances, and these songs I can listen to over and over. I wonder if he has any recorded music, I would pick it up immediately if so! www.youtube.com/watch?v=nuKVefBxMi0
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Post by Bartbär on Jun 8, 2009 2:15:24 GMT 2
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Post by wolferin on Jun 11, 2009 9:45:18 GMT 2
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