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Post by Hittavainen on Dec 6, 2004 16:24:13 GMT 2
Damn, I already like that Aznar guy.
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Post by Sethlad on Dec 6, 2004 17:46:13 GMT 2
Damn, I already like that Aznar guy. He's ok, if you're the "fascist-obnoxious-liar-arrogant-politician" type...
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Post by MaliceGarden on Dec 6, 2004 17:49:11 GMT 2
thats hitta alright. :]
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Post by DaveTheRake on Dec 7, 2004 8:54:36 GMT 2
I thought better about Aznar That's the problem, I don't know why but assuming the role of Bushe's dick-sucker he has get a lot of respect in the whole world, which is something I cannot understand. Let's forguet all about 11-M and take a look at his polithics during his 8 years of chairmanship... the first he said when he was ellected was that he was not capable of doing what he had promised; he created a lot of job... in so promising works as McDonald's attendant or temporal contracts; he calumniated and insulted the principal members from the rest of parties (in thew way the rest of the charges of his party do); and when he get the absolute majority in parliament he took away the "democratic" veil and showed his absolutist egocentric face; when he was asked anything that he didn't liked, he simply didn't answer; he (his goverment) manipulated the national media to points of insulting the audience (for example, after the "prestige" sank on TV were said that three months after the ship sank everything was OK on the Galician coasts... well, it was ok if you just wanted to experimentate the pleasure of petrol baths)... well, the list is quite long, but I can promise that he was everything but a democratic president. At last we musn't forget that his grandfather was a politician with Spanish dictator Franco, and himself was a "Falange" member (the only legal political party during the dictature) when he was a teenager.
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Post by Sethlad on Dec 7, 2004 15:41:56 GMT 2
(for example, after the "prestige" sank on TV were said that three months after the ship sank everything was OK on the Galician coasts... well, it was ok if you just wanted to experimentate the pleasure of petrol baths)... I went to A Coruña more than a year after the Prestige blight and there were still visible traces of the black tide... so that 3 month bullshit is preposterous. Furthermore, the central portuguese media actually gave the prestige incident more coverage than the central spanish media, which is certainly kind of odd. That even reaaaaaaaaaally pissed me off, since I have a deep connection to the sea and a great admiration and respect for Galiza and its people. I thought about joining the "chapapotes", but alas, more than one factor prevented my going.
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Post by MaliceGarden on Dec 7, 2004 16:31:01 GMT 2
ye ye!you're just lazy!
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Post by Sethlad on Dec 7, 2004 19:04:08 GMT 2
That was one of the factors I mentioned... a very strong one.
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Post by MaliceGarden on Dec 7, 2004 19:15:26 GMT 2
;D
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Post by Hiding on Dec 7, 2004 20:44:48 GMT 2
Dave, in my country the good shape of Aznar was created. The only reason for it I can suppose is that our president Putin's gonna do the same Is Zapatero better?
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Post by feanor on Dec 7, 2004 21:45:59 GMT 2
How could i forget my country's biggest etno/folk metal dand: Orphaned Land: ophth.free.fr/music/orphaned_land.htmlYes, you will not find any scandinavian folk music here, but Israel is not in scandinavia, and therefore, the "folk metal" here is not officially called "folk metal", but it is the folklore of the peoples that leaved here, so i guess you can count is as folk/ethno band.
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Post by Scalawag on Dec 7, 2004 22:43:25 GMT 2
Dave, in my country the good shape of Aznar was created. The only reason for it I can suppose is that our president Putin's gonna to do the same Is Zapatero better? we'll wait and see, though i doubt it... "power corrupts the best" a weird bearded Russian guy named Mihail Bakunin (our iberian kinsmen might have heard of him) wrote once.... politicians are more or less all the same fuck 'em all! some interesting celtic music for all celtic music fans, Breizh (brittany/bretagne) bands with pipebags: Bagad Brieg Bagad Kemper ;D
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Post by Hiding on Dec 7, 2004 22:54:43 GMT 2
Of course, I agree with you, cez, but what Putin does is the centralization of the power in his arms. He created the party "The United Russia" which won the absolute majority on the elections to the Parliament even not having a programme of promises . The local governors are going to be elected by himself, so the people of Russia don't decide anything. Is this democracy? By the way, Dave, had got Aznar the sucessor and why did the opponent party win the election?
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Post by Hittavainen on Dec 8, 2004 2:20:58 GMT 2
Nah, on second thought Aznar was a loser. Evil people don't obey the rules of democracy. But mr. Putin seems to have some attitude. Imagine those little black moustache to his face, and you'll get almost 'the real thing'! ;D ;D ;D But personally I wouldn't mind if that Mr. Director's second edition would live in a country little bit more far away from us.. but Israel is not in scandinavia, and therefore, the "folk metal" here is not officially called "folk metal", but it is the folklore of the peoples that leaved here, so i guess you can count is as folk/ethno band. Do you have any kletzmer metal? That would rule. ;D
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Post by feanor on Dec 8, 2004 14:42:57 GMT 2
Do you have any kletzmer metal? That would rule. ;D No, but i guess it would Own everybody, if such band was created.
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Post by ShamanRunedancer on Dec 8, 2004 14:48:32 GMT 2
I agree. I don't think that they suddenly woke up one morning and said "hey, from now on we will be nazis... we don't know why, but we will be nazis". If on the second album there were nazi ideology that's because they had already the ideology on the first... if it weren't this way well, I think they are the most stupid posers of the whole world. So they can insert their whole discography and their ideology in their nazi asses, and if it doesn't fit, I will help them with a baseball bat. He,he,that`s good!I like your opinion about nazi-bastards! Even though they had really no nazi ideology in their heads when they wrote songs for their first CD anyway I would think of their nazi ideology when I listened to the CD-it`s a too strong association! @ feanor: I believe that there is great music on this CD and your description sounds really great but-as I explained-I am not free to enjoy this music!It`s too bad about a band that can write so great songs...
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