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Post by frostheim on Jul 23, 2006 12:00:41 GMT 2
From the FAQ: 10. With listing topics, tell us also why do you like that "XXX is the best". Only listing names after one another is not a discussion.
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Post by twilightheart on Jul 23, 2006 12:26:16 GMT 2
10. With listing topics, tell us also why do you like that "XXX is the best". Only listing names after one another is not a discussion. Well, but especially with arts it`s difficult for some people to say WHY you like someone`s art. Especially with E.Munch, as he was an expressionist. You cannot really describe his art with words, you can only FEEL it. And anyway... real good art (be it music or paintings) can actually never be described with words in full, as some pieces of arts are so wonderful that any words are just trivial and "saying-nothing" in comparison to watching the real piece. So if it comes to art I personally always like to read what other people enjoy (even if they can`t give reasons for it),... so I´d love to see people go on with it... It´s just a hint of them for us of what MIGHT be worth checking out. But the real feeling of any piece of art you can only experience yourself by feeling it yourself. Back to the subject: I personally like old portrait paintings, as there were no photos excisting back in time, and some skilled painters were able to reflect parts of a personality in a painting. Or even: some of those portraits make you think about this being on the picture, although it´s not excisting anymore... but anyway by watching you wonder what life this person might have had. Like for instance this children`s portrait of Bouguereau: Or this one of Foellmi is outstanding, too:
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Post by frostheim on Jul 23, 2006 12:57:02 GMT 2
Well, but especially with arts it`s difficult for some people to say WHY you like someone`s art. But one should still at least give it a try. If one is very much into something (was it art of whatever of it's kind) from the bottom of one's heart, I'd consider that the describing of it all with words should be one of the least problems one has ever got in what one is dealing with. If one is interested in something for real, one surely has got also even some thoughts about it, and in that case words for them too. If one in addition truly likes something, there are always ways to bring up one's own thoughts and feelings about it, just a matter of one's own will and attitude. And anyway... real good art (be it music or paintings) can actually never be described with words in full, as some pieces of arts are so wonderful that any words are just trivial and "saying-nothing" in comparison to watching the real piece. My actual point wasn't about describing the art makers' achievements to the others, but namely to tell the others about one's very own feelings and thoughts when watching/hearing/etc. those results. One doesn't even have to be 100% exact nor professionally oriented in one's describings, but it would be very nice to hear at least something about one's very own thoughts about whatever in question. At least I don't find just simple name-dropping very informative in any aspect, and especially as ie. I myself am not very much into paintings/drawings/etc., it would namely be interesting to be able to read even some thoughts about the subject from those people who are much more into these things than I am. But the real feeling of any piece of art you can only experience yourself by feeling it yourself. This is self-evident. IMO it still should never be too difficult for anyone to find even a couple of words concerning one's own thoughts and feelings derived and occurred from certain experiences etc. As I said back there, one should even try.
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Post by honeycage on Jul 25, 2006 23:50:21 GMT 2
ooh I LOVE Van Gogh & Boris Vallejo
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Post by frostheim on Jul 26, 2006 7:56:46 GMT 2
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Post by thyr on Jul 26, 2006 14:27:18 GMT 2
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Post by A Kat Person on Jul 27, 2006 4:23:11 GMT 2
Back to the subject: I personally like old portrait paintings, as there were no photos excisting back in time, and some skilled painters were able to reflect parts of a personality in a painting. Or even: some of those portraits make you think about this being on the picture, although it´s not excisting anymore... but anyway by watching you wonder what life this person might have had. I feel the same about old portrait paintings! There is such an air of mystery and wonder about them, exactly as you describe, wondering about the soul who's portrait this is. Some modern day artists continue to try to master the art of portrait painting, I am trying to do this myself; although of course this is very difficult to do really properly. A lot of people for some reason think that this is useless nowadays because of the camera. But I disagree. Paintings capture things that photos do not. A portrait painting is, and I don't think I exaggerate, a sort of spiritual melding between the artist and subject. As an artist paints the subject, so much feeling goes into every brushstroke; such feeling that a camera can never capture. People can stand for a long time staring at a masterful portrait painting; but rarely do people stare at a photograph for so long. Unfortunately, a lot of modern-day portrait painters resort to using photographs as a reference. I've been guilty of this myself. But I can see the difference... I never, ever get as good a portrait from a photo as I can from a living subject, not even close. And if the artist cannot create the impression of 3D out of nothing (truly a challenge!) then the painting just winds up looking like a copy of the photograph - flattened and lifeless. But it is difficult; few people have the patience to sit for portraits for hours, days, weeks etc. these days. Anyway, just my thoughts on the subject... Here's one of my favorite portraits by one of my favorite artists, Ilya Repin. I love portraits by artists like him because they are not so finished and polished (like Bougereou's, for example - I like Bougerou but that type of polished painting is not my favorite) but these, in contrast, they look so fresh and contain the personality of the artist - it may be less obvious on a print, but on the actual painting you can see clearly every brushstroke, which contains so much personality and movement... www.abcgallery.com/R/repin/repin30.html
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Post by ina on Aug 12, 2006 11:59:12 GMT 2
kwerkykat, I love Ilya Repin as well! I've seen many works by him in Helsinki and i always have to stop and stare these paintings because i can't believe that they are not photographs...they looks so real and many would gives up their lives for a talent like he had. The finnish art museums always have to mention that he lived the last years of his life in finland and was very creative. There's even a train from Helsinki to St. Petersburg named after him.
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shiva
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Post by shiva on Aug 13, 2006 15:08:37 GMT 2
John Martin: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Martin_%28painter%29 A beautiful landscape painter, such a huge insperation to me. His landscapes often show the world being destroyed, usually by god himself, and being a lover of biblical storys I just really loved his work. The intense colours and exaggerated shading. Chandra Free: www.spookychan.com/ Not famous or anything she's just an illustrator who is starting out really, but she has a very unique style taking influences mostly from the Art Nouveau movement (I think).
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Post by pellonpekko on Aug 14, 2006 10:21:31 GMT 2
I'm Degreeing in Tour Guide in Rome at University, and I studied Art History very well!!
I like Rubens and 500-600 renaissance-Baroque from Fiandre and Italy (Rome).
I analyzed the difference of stylysm between Rubens and Italian painters.
Pellonpekko
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Post by A Kat Person on Aug 29, 2006 2:35:31 GMT 2
kwerkykat, I love Ilya Repin as well! I've seen many works by him in Helsinki and i always have to stop and stare these paintings because i can't believe that they are not photographs...they looks so real and many would gives up their lives for a talent like he had. The finnish art museums always have to mention that he lived the last years of his life in finland and was very creative. There's even a train from Helsinki to St. Petersburg named after him. Oh yes, I have taken that train!! A joyous experience, taking this train between 2 spectacular cities Yes, his talent was uncanny. Towards the end of his life he had gotten so skilled that he was able to paint a good portrait in under an hour! That is unheard of... Have the Finnish art museums ever borrowed/displayed the painting of Ivan the Terrible? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:REPIN_Ivan_Terrible%26Ivan.jpgI saw this painting in Moscow and I was surprised by my own reaction... it was life-sized, and I could not look at this painting without getting chills running up my spine, an effect I ordinarily get only from listening to certain music...
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Post by tjolle on Sept 15, 2006 23:29:19 GMT 2
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Post by Humppaporo on Nov 19, 2006 10:19:21 GMT 2
On december 16, an exhibition of the beautiful paintings of Akseli Gallen Kallela will open in the big art museum in Groningen. It will be opened by Tarja Halonen. I think this painter was already mentioned somewhere in this thread, but here a few links again: info on Akseli Gallen Kallela paintings Since i go to school in Groningen I will go there i and i guess my fellow students too More info, (with nice big pictures) on this exhibition: www.groningermuseum.nl/index.php?id=2554
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Post by Lionheart on Nov 19, 2006 13:24:27 GMT 2
@humppa: I saw that painting AGES ago... I remeber it has something to do with the Kalevala as I think I saw it in the Kalevala Village ( Can't remember where that is either... *goes to look for photo's*)
For myself I absolutely love Salvador Dali. Especially the absurd elements in his paintings. And ofcourse M.C. Escher. Lovely paintings which always make you think, something isn't right in them, but it can take awhile to figure out what isn't. Also his other work ( he did more than just the sort of math paintings) are quite nice. Hard to get to see them though.
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