Kirki
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Post by Kirki on Jul 9, 2009 12:19:25 GMT 2
Is it me, or is it rather hard seeing someone you love with someone else? (yes, I'm confused a little. Give me a break here )
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Crystiannia
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Post by Crystiannia on Jul 13, 2009 7:26:00 GMT 2
Yes, but then you can always go out of your way to sabotage the other person! ;D
Or not... and just do things to prove you are the better match!
But never under estimate the power of sabotage at critical moments! In love and war ALL oppurtunities must be seized!
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Kirki
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Post by Kirki on Jul 13, 2009 20:06:33 GMT 2
Yes but I am too nice to sabotage things
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Post by Bartbär on Jul 15, 2009 8:37:29 GMT 2
Kirki, you are "sabotaging' nothing if the person she is with is one who is not justifiably good for her, even if she may say or think him to be so. You are simply bringing into alignment the better Will of (hopefully) both parties. Just be careful of course, as these things can be tricky. I used to spend my days trying to "convert" the women I had feelings for to my cause, but all in vain. To this day I remain "best friend" or "the really good guy", but never "THE guy". Thankfully these women were of no good, and perhaps I have done things correctly, but it is always something to be weary of. I can only tell in time if my Chivalry has paid off. @ Crystiannia: Indeed social networking sites are great subduers of such things, but also a double-edged sword. You are right that to hear a voice is so much more powerful than texts or emoticons. As I'm sure we could all agree. hehe It is a shame I've grown too disgusted by phones that I do not call or talk with friends over the phone. But I savor it for the moment in which person to person contact can be had. Language is absolutely powerful, and although the ability to use characters in order to code a language into text is amazing, it just isn't the same as hearing a voice. Sure even ones messages can be unique and everyone has their "mark" or writing style. But voices, these are even more unique, and even more powerful. The body is not meant to be kept silent. Words are powerful, and when we hear nothing but silence we are punishing ourselves. Words cause vibration of both the speaker and the receiver, and motion is what turns all things into Music, of which we all know is very powerful. In the great aphorism of Nietzsche is expressed this importance of person-to-person contact and human contact in general: "I listened for an echo, and heard nothing but praise." This may often be falsely interpreted as egotism or some form of mania, but it is quite far from it. This quote describes the pains isolation puts one at. You are alone so long with your thoughts that you have no one around to challenge them or to see things in a new light. You are thrown into a world of which all things begin to feel and look the same, because your mind has warped its own world of which, with continuous isolation, all things become dark. It is true that we create individual worlds for ourselves, but it is human contact that allows us to bring these worlds together and realize that there is a common plain for which they can all exist. Having said that, it is nice to have contact over the internet. And I'm glad that you have rekindled an old flame by gaining that communication again. I hope perhaps you can meet all those you want to in person, as one should always strive to meet in person. We should live every moment as if it were our last, and that means no matter how hard or how long it takes, to cherish the time with your friends and loved ones in person, anyway possible.
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Crystiannia
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Post by Crystiannia on Jul 16, 2009 3:44:33 GMT 2
Yes but I am too nice to sabotage things The key is to be subtle and not even realize you are doing it! LOL! You don't have to go out of your way to cause your rival grief, but slight things can work just as well! But still, you must be true to your own heart and hopefully she will see. I must say, speaking from experience, some females can be awfully blind and bypass even the most noble of suitors quite by accident! Even if you are not apt to confront her with your heart, do make your feelings clear in some way. Let her friends know if possible! They will be quick to tell her should the other fellow let her down that there is someone better and closer then she thinks. I know that I am generalizing, but many women seem to be exceptionally ignorant when the right guy has come along. (I'm sure you men as well, but I still live in the age of chivalry so I expect you guys to take charge regardless of what the woman says! LOL! To a point!) All that stands between you and your beloved is this scoundrel of a knight! So suit up, mount your steed and steady your lance! Knock him from his horse and claim your prize! Or go the court minstrel route and woo the fair maiden with some passionate stanzas! ;D
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Crystiannia
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Post by Crystiannia on Jul 22, 2009 5:00:20 GMT 2
Never realized how whiny and overly dramatic some of my posts were -- simply had to delete! I must be banned from posting after 1am! But the case is void! As I am now free -- only the details need be worked out. It is never a happy occasion when love has died, but sometimes necessary in order to find the real thing! I do wish it hadn't come to this. And so now I get to join in the search for my fellow Viking adventurer -- or else become the crazy cat lady down the street! LOL! Either way it is nice to see the sun, or perhaps moonlight? at the end of the tunnel!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2009 19:16:37 GMT 2
I made a discovery guys, a healthy one and also good and at hand in this mondial crisis: friendship & love can be used as vitamins! Real boosters.. ;D I'm laughing, but I'm serious..
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Kirki
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Post by Kirki on Aug 1, 2009 19:53:49 GMT 2
Update: she's deinfately taken and has been so for a year. Fuck. That's not too pleasing!
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Post by Mighty Croc on Aug 1, 2009 20:02:27 GMT 2
Shit. It is really not...
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Post by Bartbär on Aug 1, 2009 20:08:02 GMT 2
I feel for you Kirki. It sucks having deep feelings for someone who you wonder if you'll ever get to be with. On your end it is someone who is in a relationship, on my end it is someone who I never get to see nor talk to (very rarely at least) and as time goes on the feeling never subsides. Damn human emotions! There is still hope yet for all of us lovelorned. Whether it be in time and with the partner we long for, or with time and with a newfound Love. Any way, best of luck to all of us!
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Kirki
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Post by Kirki on Aug 2, 2009 1:09:24 GMT 2
I hope so! I admit, I end up making myself ill with things like this sometimes!
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Crystiannia
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Post by Crystiannia on Aug 2, 2009 7:02:14 GMT 2
Oh Kirki I'm sorry! I know that must feel terrible but one must think that there is still time for things to fall into place, or as Anwend mentioned, for that new found love to enter. There is a really pretty american country song called "Wishing On Someone Else's Star" which really puts into words the feelings that come from situations just as this. It's not a happy song, but truthful and sweet nonetheless. www.imeem.com/kongx00/music/jWjvSZez/bryan-white-someone-elses-star/ I think that link might work? I have nothing but the greatest of hopes that you and Anwend both, get to be in the arms of your beloveds soon enough! …though I still recommend sabotage…
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Post by Bartbär on Aug 2, 2009 17:41:06 GMT 2
I still recommend sabotage too. Thanks though. I hope it all works out too, but sometimes I wonder. It's just one of those things that you try to hide, you try to cast into some dark corner and hope that you don't have to worry about the pain of not being with them. But it always comes back. Even if I succeed in hiding it for months, that occassional communication out of the blue or that occassional glance upon a picture, and it all comes back again. Part of me wonders if it is just some longing I've had simply because I've never got to truly talk with her more. Perhaps it is just some irrational longing for her. But I don't think so. At least if I could talk with her more and see her more in person for one-on-one talks I would know for sure where my feelings were. My problem is I've always been a romantic. I have a strong devotion that is like poison to me. I keep holding on to an ideal of that "one special woman" even though I don't even completely believe in that concept. But your passion is more powerful than any form of reasoning, which is why many people still make mistakes (and never learn from them). I think the thing that sucks most is that since I never get to talk with her, not even online for months and months on end, and since her hopes for the future differ from mine, I wonder if it is something I will ever get to figure out. Perhaps that is just my lone-wolf side talking. For as long as I can remember I have envisioned myself as someone who lives and walks alone with the occassional friend and perhaps brief partner, living a life of solitude. And when happenings in the now seem to lead up to that path, I only think it to be my future even more. Maybe I am wrong, but I will not know until the time comes. The thing is too that I do like a handful of women, some of them very dearly, others just lustful attraction. But it is hard to put any devotion towards them because I still have that devotion towards someone I may never even get to clarify it with. Enough rambling. A peaceful and beautiful morning always gets my mind in a twist.
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Post by Bartbär on Aug 2, 2009 17:45:05 GMT 2
My apologies for how emo some of that lone-wolf stuff sounded. I should clarify that if that was my life, I would not hate it, I would be happy with it. That came off sounding very dreary, and I did not meant it to. Basically it boils down to this: I would love to be with that one special woman, or at least be with a handful of women that were all dear and special to me throughout time, but if I was bound to live a lonesome life, I would embrace it. Afterall I prefer solitude for the most part, and understand that it would take a partner who was just as devotional and understanding as I was to put up with me. I'm not being hard on myself here, just realistic. I'm not the easiest person to be an aquiantance with. I take pride in that, because those who can handle it end up being the most dear people in my life.
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Post by Bartbär on Aug 2, 2009 17:51:17 GMT 2
Speaking of sad songs that fit such moods. Here is my favorite, since it fits, at least my situation, perfectly. I have probably posted it before, because it is one of the most moving songs. www.youtube.com/watch?v=4eEosaOIzxQEnglish lyrics: If you want the Swedish, let me know and I'll post A thousand thoughts oppress me For love of one who can’t be mine. As through the world I ramble, All I can do is pine. All I can feel is the pain I bear And it’s all for you, my dear. Mankind’s false heart betrayed me And left me in despair. If I had never seen you, Your hands, your face, your clear blue eyes, If I had never been there The first time you walked by, I might have spent my days in joy. I might be content and free. The day will never dawn now When sorrow leaves me be. The pretty flowers of summer I see them everywhere I go, But death is all I long for, Since your love I’ll never know. And if my fate’s to die for you, To you I’ll leave my pain, For never while I’m living Will I be free again. Hope this song finds you well too Kirki. Sad songs like these are the best to listen to when such feelings come over us. When you realize that others struggle for that same thing that you do, it makes you feel better, just to know that empathy surrounds you, even if you can't always feel it.
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