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Post by DaveTheRake on Nov 28, 2004 20:12:26 GMT 2
Buff, kinda strange for me, I promise; thank you very much for the explanation, the meaning is now clear for me now; the problem is that in Spain refering to the devil is no more consider as swearing... even we don't have the name of the devil as cursing. Is funny that being the "sword of catholic church" for so many years, we preffer to curse on the saints name and god's name. The most similar to cursing on satan's name that I remember is "me cago en los cuernos de lucifer" (I shit over Lucifer's horns) but is not much spread. We prefer to shit over god, the virgin, the nails of Christ, the large collection of saints we have, and so on. It's very much difficult for me to understand that talking about the devil may be such a big offense . But well, here the problem is for Spanish language; as Hemingway said in For Whom The Bell Tolls, Spanish has a dirty word for every single swearing word of the rest of the languages on earth. As you see the real rednecks over the earth are we, spanish ;D Some day we've got to open a thread with a list of swearing in all the languages of the forum... although I would need more room than the sume of the rest... as usual in me Thank you very much for the explanation! and the audio demo!
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Post by Sethlad on Nov 29, 2004 13:31:11 GMT 2
I had the chance to experience a real-life genuine rendition of the traditional perkele in the Helsinkian train-station, courtesy of one the crazy drunkards roaming around there who did an exquisitely "rolled" version of the multi-function swear word: peRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRkele!!!
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Post by Hittavainen on Nov 29, 2004 16:08:23 GMT 2
Yeah, that's what Finland is known about: Sibelius, Sauna and Perkele. Oh, you prefer shitting on things, that's pretty insultive. ;D Let me try: "Arrr,.. I shit on Santa Claus's beard!", "I shit on the Carpathian Mountains!", "I shit on JuhoKusti's accordion!", "I shit on Jonne's big wooden pint!", "I shit upon the ice-veiled throne of Ultima Thule!", "I shit on the Great Sword of Steel", "I shit on a hippo's bloody fuck!!" (..or maybe i'd just go and shit on my pants. ;D ) btw, i've heard that Mitsubishi Pajero isn't a very popular car in Spain...
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Post by DaveTheRake on Nov 29, 2004 16:47:19 GMT 2
btw, i've heard that Mitsubishi Pajero isn't a very popular car in Spain... Very good that one, jajaja! ;D Yeah, it's true! Even they had to change the name of the car and here it is called Mitsubishi Montero. But I know a guy who has one Pajero, he bought it in Belgium in a second hand fair. For all of you who doens't know, as Mr Hittavainen knows, the word "Pajero" comes in Spanish from "Paja" (straw); the problem is that a "paja" is also in Spanish a wank, and the one who is wanking all the time (everyone of us, don't say the oppossite, liers ;D!) is a "Pajero"; although lately we preffer the word "pajillero", which is a more "familiar" way of saying it... it's just a form more socially accepted, at least in Madrid. It's not so much peyorative to say "pero que pajillero que eres tio!" (what a wanker you are, man!"than saying "este tio se mata a pajas" (this guy kills himself wanking) ; is much less peyorative. Pajillero is also used to describe a guy who never does anything right or has no girl or is sexually frustrated. A great word ;D
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Post by DaveTheRake on Nov 29, 2004 16:57:26 GMT 2
Let me try: "Arrr,.. I shit on Santa Claus's beard!", "I shit on the Carpathian Mountains!", "I shit on JuhoKusti's accordion!", "I shit on Jonne's big wooden pint Quite easy, isn't it? The most offensive way of shitting on something would be "Me cago en tu puta madre" (I shit on the bitch your mother is) and "me cago en todos tus muertos" (I shit on all of your dead kin); it's also very much offensive for traditional ears to say "Me cago en Dios" (I shit on God). The funniest of all this is that we perfectly may shit on the bitch mother of a friend and we are just saying that he is fucking A, or we are honouring him for doing a very unexpected thing. The way of shitting I like more is "Me cago en tu puta calavera" (I shit on your fucking skull). By the way, "Puta" is bitch, but we also use it as "fucking". You see why I say that we've got in spanish more swearing than the whole rest of the languages?
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Post by Sethlad on Nov 29, 2004 18:18:29 GMT 2
Portuguese is a very strong contender... I can find an equivalent for any spanish insult/swear you throw at me. hehehehe
If you go to the North of Portugal you'll hear sentences with basically nothing but sweard words. If you cut across someone in traffic you can easily listen to a:
"Foda-se, filho da puta de um cabrão! E se fosses para o caralho que te foda meu grande paneleiro da merda!!"
in english:
"Fuck you, you son of a bitch and a goat! What if you went to the cock that fucks you, you great shitty faggott!" (literal translation, makes no sense in english)
So let's be PC and say the Iberians take it...
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Post by DaveTheRake on Nov 29, 2004 20:03:13 GMT 2
Ok then, Iberian languages are the most fucking dirty ones in the world ;D
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Post by Hittavainen on Nov 29, 2004 23:02:54 GMT 2
And i already like them for that. ;D
I shit on a Swedish sauna!
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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 29, 2004 23:49:09 GMT 2
ye, we, from the north of Portugal are very inventive when it comes to bad words. and it cool to see a guy really angry(there are guys in a "normal" state the also do this) saying them. in a 5 words sentence, 4 or 5 are bad words.
by the way, "tio" in portuguese means "uncle".
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Post by Hiding on Nov 29, 2004 23:52:55 GMT 2
I think that Russian isn't backward. It is usual when some men speak, but not swear on uncensored Russian. I can't write the writing of our swears, but in English it will sound so: hyi and very-very much derivations, which mean everything without any exceptions. Then, "pizda" and derivations are woman's genital, but it means everything too. It has many derivations too. "Blyat" - is like an article. "Ebat" - to fuck, but also means everything. So it is ordinary - hearing such a sentence: "Ty cheo pizdish, blya, ohyel, blya, zaebal yje, blya" and so on. It means: "What's the fuck you day, i'm tired of you". It's more juicy in Russian
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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 29, 2004 23:54:38 GMT 2
i know a few girls that intend to go from moscow to vladivostok!
they made me think in doiong the same one day.
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Post by Hiding on Nov 30, 2004 0:59:39 GMT 2
Well, it's a very hard test for everybody. You'll be travelling about 7 days by the train. You will feel all the charm of unobtrusive Russian service (for example, the abscence of shower. It will cost very much and so on, so on. And you won't see the amenities of our nature, because the train doesn't go there. But when you decide to do it, tell me. We'll have some beer before your trip and then maybe I'll go wth you ;D . As for me, nevertheless I live in Russia, I've been only to a few cities. I even have never been to St.-Petersburg, but it's the problem of time
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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 30, 2004 1:05:26 GMT 2
the girls told me that, except the part of the showers. but i spent more time without washing myself. :]
damn!i thought it was possible to see the nature stuff(thats in part the reason i would like to emprehend this type of trip). if i go, it would be only in some years from now.first, i have to learn cyrillic alphabet and russian. i tried to have russian classes, but they didnt go forward due to lack of people. it happened the same thing with the finnish. :] beer? it wasnt suppose to be vodka?
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Post by Hiding on Nov 30, 2004 1:13:38 GMT 2
The all you'll see during the trip will be the same view of fields (green in summer, yellow in autumn, white in winter). To see all the beauties of nature you should travel by yourself. According to the tales stories of my frineds, parents and knowns the most beatiuful nature in Russia is in the Caucasus, but I've never been to the east of the country, in Asian part. ... we can drink beer or vodka. Or beer and vodka. It is called EORSCH in Russian. The killing mix!! Or we may smoke something
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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 30, 2004 1:19:45 GMT 2
smoking something.....just to damage you body.
i would like to visit the "working camps" where the prisioners were sent there. :] are they still active oficially?and unoficially?
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