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Post by Lionheart on Oct 31, 2006 13:27:14 GMT 2
Regshoe: Out of interest ( no... NOT starting a discussion ) if you go and serve in the army, would you have to go to dangerous territory, like Palestinian territories our near the Lebanon border? Or is that only or the "real pro's" in the army? Could even become quite dangerous would that be the case
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Post by wolferin on Oct 31, 2006 14:08:06 GMT 2
Regshoe, The situation in Israel is complex, but I wish you good luck and no dangerous missions during your military service. 3 years are very long period, but ...
About military service -I'm very happy, from 2008 it is not obligatory in Bulgaria. My son will not go in the army. I must admit, I was very much afraid about this fact. I've always said, I'll never let my son go in the army, I worried about accidents, etc. But my husband shares the opinion of Pekka, that in the army the boys turn to men.
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Post by RegShoe on Oct 31, 2006 14:30:07 GMT 2
Regshoe: Out of interest ( no... NOT starting a discussion ) if you go and serve in the army, would you have to go to dangerous territory, like Palestinian territories our near the Lebanon border? Or is that only or the "real pro's" in the army? Could even become quite dangerous would that be the case Well.. when you join the army, you get signed a "profile", which is set by a series of tests, which determine your physical and mental abilities. This "profile" can be one of these numbers: 21, 24, 45, 64, 72, 82, 97. If your profile is 21, you can't serve, even if you want to. Profiles 72 and up, have to serve in the combat units, where as profiles 64 and down have to serve in the.. well.. non-combet units :} Of course everything has it's exceptions. And BTW, Israel is not half of what the foreign news networks make of it. It's not as dangerous and not as scary as seen on CNN and bullshit like that.
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Post by CrazyMary on Oct 31, 2006 14:38:00 GMT 2
RegShoe and Dave, I understand both your points of view and I think you both have persuasive arguments for them.
For myself I am grateful to live in a country where national service is not a necessity. My brother was considering joining the navy a few years ago and just the idea scared me. But if Australia's position changed and conscription was necessary, I'd like to think I would support it in principle, though I'd still be terrified for my family members taking part.
I think this media age of misinformation makes supporting war difficult. It seems to me that during World War II the general population could be fairly confident that they were fighting a just war for a worthy cause. Australia is still involved in the Iraq war with Bush and the principles of that war - corporate American interests, as far as I can tell - are not justified in my opinion. Still, you cannot blame the soldiers whose corrupt governments have sent them there.
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Post by MaliceGarden on Oct 31, 2006 20:55:29 GMT 2
last week i had my army presence postponed until im 35 (in 13 years and something, as im 21). I too would like to have gone to do the military service, which i think it last about 6 months. the problem is taht it would break m6y studies and to finish my degree has been the main purpose since i was a child. well, im lucky in the since i attended Scouts for many years so i learned a lot of stuff, which i would be taught in the army, etc. going to the army stopped being obligatory here 3 years agoi, i think., but, apparently it will be mandatory(unless you have "excuses", like i had - of going to univeristiy or so) from next year again due to economical reasons- the government spends lots of money with contracts.
3 years is indeed a lot of time dude! good luck! a really "cool" thing of your coutrny have all the enemies is that your scientific research is really developed! at least in my area (Materials).
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Post by HerraHirwi on Nov 1, 2006 1:16:06 GMT 2
It's almost 6 years as I got my military service finished. I was only 6 months, which is the minimum here in Finland. During that time I grew much as a human, I learned some social skills and the most important thing: I learned not to take a problem from little things. The time had a good effect on me. I served in a pioneer unit.
Last year - as a matter of fact in the very same time as now - I was called in military refresher course, which lasted one week. That time we had much more relaxed atmosphere: in the daytime we made our work and in the evening we went in canteen to drink some coffee and eating donuts. We also had sauna many times, as the sauna was in military camping area in the middle of the forest. The Finnish army is good employee, what comes to military refreshers: I had during that week over 300 €uros as a wage, which was a big money for the poor student. ;D
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Post by RegShoe on Nov 1, 2006 9:10:38 GMT 2
Well, about the wage: if you serve in a combat unit, you get about 700 NIS a month, which is equivalent to about 130 euros. If you serve in a non-combat unit you get half. :\ That is about the shittiest fact of it all. But then again, the army takes care of all of your needs, such as food and stuff. I also must mention that if you finish you're 3 years, and stay there more time (could be 1 year, could be 20), the wage is one of the best in the country. It's really big.
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Post by wolferin on Nov 3, 2006 1:39:51 GMT 2
A few words about me: My education -secondary is English language school and higher -Technical University in Sofia. But after I got married I remained at home, so now I'm a housewife. I'm beginning to get bored, so I'm thinking sometimes of finding work. Some more money are also welcome. The future will show....
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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 3, 2006 13:49:53 GMT 2
Wolferin: "prize winner of defiance, ohio" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406158/) you could do the same. i watched this movie last night and i really enjoyed it! what course did you do at the technical uni? a voluntary dude in the army here, i think it earns 600euros/month and has all kind of perks, like paying 30cts for a train ticket.
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Post by wolferin on Nov 3, 2006 23:45:17 GMT 2
Wolferin: "prize winner of defiance, ohio" (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0406158/) you could do the same. i watched this movie last night and i really enjoyed it! what course did you do at the technical uni? MaliceGarden, I have only one child, not ten and fortunately my husband earns enough for the three of us. But I do from time to time some English translations. I'll try to find this film ;D I have master degree from the technical uni. You're studing in a technical uni as well, what course?
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Post by MaliceGarden on Nov 4, 2006 0:15:20 GMT 2
well, isnt your master degree somehting more specific? i'm doing polymer engineering(well, from this year onwards my course starts to be called a master, i think). :] one of the few science guys here. :]
the movie is really great. :] well, apart from the economical reasons she did it for the kicks. she was a very bright woman, but without opportunities to exercise the intelect. :]
nhec nhec
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Post by wolferin on Nov 4, 2006 1:08:20 GMT 2
well, isnt your master degree somehting more specific? i'm doing polymer engineering(well, from this year onwards my course starts to be called a master, i think). :] one of the few science guys here. :] the movie is really great. :] well, apart from the economical reasons she did it for the kicks. she was a very bright woman, but without opportunities to exercise the intelect. :] nhec nhec Communication technique There are different types of intellect. The education is not always a prerequisite for high intellect and the lack of diploma not always means lack of intellect. Though the education is important for giving a system of the knowledge. Well, I'm afraid we are starting to flood the thread, so I suggest this: ICQ 354773484
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Post by RegShoe on Nov 4, 2006 2:49:38 GMT 2
like paying 30cts for a train ticket. Well, here all soldiers get free transportation (train and bus).
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Post by uklfc on Nov 17, 2006 3:36:30 GMT 2
Hmm, my "other job" I work with adults with challenging behaviour and learning difficulties. Basically this ranges from the extreme end, non verbal, violent behaviour, physical and mental agression. The lower end is more on Tourette's, low spectrum ASD (Autistic Spectrum Disorders). Generally I could be doing pretty much anything in my job. Its cool though, we're outside a lot, always doing something. My "other" jobs can usually range from creating backgrounds and signature banners in Paint Shop Pro, making and customising my own clothes, writing fanfiction and poems, sometimes if people ask. I've also written a few songs, one my boyf has offered to turn into a "proper" song for me. My major love was always languages, when I'm not bust doing everything else, opiskelen suomea! It'll be the fourth language I have learnt properly, but unluckily I've not been able to find a job in which I can use them all
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Post by Veliveikko on Feb 29, 2008 16:27:00 GMT 2
Now I'm on second year in upper secondary school. After the military service I'll probably go to study history or religionsiences but I have also thought to study fenno-ugristics
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