Ǽcen
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Post by Ǽcen on Nov 5, 2008 7:39:59 GMT 2
Barack Obama has won the election!
I'm very glad to say the least. And addressing the people in this forum specifically, I really believe that he can repair the image of the United States among the rest of the world.
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Post by branigan on Nov 5, 2008 19:42:43 GMT 2
I'm very happy that Obama won the election. I had a good idea that he would win just based on the projected outcome, but I didn't expect Mccain to fall so short. He didn't even get half the delegates! With that being said, I don't follow a particular political party, but I generally follow more liberal policies. Democrats usually win my vote, although I still have to do my research.
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Post by dragnagen on Nov 6, 2008 6:06:06 GMT 2
At the moment I'm somewhat neutral about the results of the election. If I could've voted I would have chosen McCain, but I can't say I was ever particularly loyal to him. To me it's seemed like Obama would win anyway so I'm not too disappointed.
Hopefully Obama can do all the positive things he promises; I have to say he's certainly helped the Usa's image already. It's just a little disconcerting to have a Democratic President, state Governor, Senate, and House of Representatives. With Obama being from the Chicago political machine that's pretty scary too. But with all that said, it is certainly time for a change in the US and Obama was the most likely candidate to bring it about.
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Post by MoonDancer on Nov 7, 2008 2:11:10 GMT 2
Well, after having two periods of Republican presidency it was quite expectable that most Americans will vote for the Democratic candidate. On the other hand I have expected more votes for McCain.
And I think Democrats definitely wanted to go down to history, because Obama is the first African American president and Hillary Clinton would have been the first women president. And, to tell the truth, when I was in the USA in 1995 people have already been talking about the possibility of a black president. Also we can see African American presidents in Hollywood-films as well. So the way for Obama was already paved in my opinion.
About his promises: I think it will be very hard to keep all of them, but we'll see. USA would need such a remarkable president as it was Franklin D. Roosevelt.
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Post by nicorla on Nov 7, 2008 17:10:39 GMT 2
Of course his way was paved, but I still think that there might be quite a lot of people who think different about a coloured president. I must say, it's a great step in the history of the USA, but I sure hope, he will do his best working on the realization of his promises. I do wish him the best, but still, I am sceptical about it. I will watch the whole thing closely. It is not that I don't think that Obama is a good guy, but I don't know ... People change when given power. I hope he won't fail to withstand the temptation of using it on his own accord, without any results for the good of the USA. But everybody is better than Bush. This... I won't use a word. That's better, I think. Nevermind.
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Post by pellonpekko on Nov 8, 2008 1:25:01 GMT 2
For me personally Obama will take more changes over my Boring life.
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Post by Ravion on Nov 8, 2008 10:41:13 GMT 2
I don't actually see how an American president could influence my life directly, so I didn't give too much attention to the elections. But, since we all had our preferred people in power/coming to power, I was glad to see Obama win.
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Post by DaveTheRake on Nov 8, 2008 20:18:39 GMT 2
About Obama's ellection, I personally think that it is positive that a change is taken in the USA. I think he is a good candidate, not like McCain and Palin who were quite grey... I mean, you hear Obama talking and you feel that there's a message given; McCain sounded like a press seller ginving his opinions about polithics, and Palin... ok didn't she said something like "I would, if I feel Russia is creating problems I would definitely attack them"... ok . SO Obama was definitely the candidate that had something to say. But I have lived that before, here in Spain. When we voted Zapatero the first time we were sick and tired of right wing dictatorial methods and Zapatero was the guy to change everything. Four years later I must say that although there are some social changes, essentially everything's the same. It is not a matter of who is in charge, we must forget that; it is no longer the president the one who governs, it is the President and his team, his administration. Bush wasn't but the public face of a horrible administration, and Obama is nothing but the same, the face you recognize, but his polithics decissions will be those of his administration. So I'm afraid nothing will change... maybe a more relaxed internatiuonal polithics, but not more. And about the fact that a black person is ruliong the USA, I don't think this portraits a social change towards afroamericans... you take a look at the voting map and you see that as usual southern territories are voting Republicans; the difference is that Obama has won in the most crowded northern territories. So unfortunately all that about the extinction of racism will be nothing but a good man's dream yet. Anyway, as somebody has pointed, USA's international image is changing to better
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Post by dragnagen on Dec 10, 2008 5:13:07 GMT 2
Well, Illinois' Governor finally got arrested today for trying to sell the Senate seat vacated by Barack Obama, along with a long list of other fradulent charges. I was actually in Chicago when it happened because of a Turisas concert so that was kind of interesting. It's just funny (for me and other Illinois residents) to listen to how everyone on CNN is so overwhelmed by the revealed corruption...it's pretty much just assumed here in the very large part of the state that isn't Chicago and more or less wishes it was a part of Indiana or something that anyone who comes to power out of the Chicago machine is heavily corrupt. The Governor doesn't even leave Chicago most of the time, even though the capital of the state is in Springfield. Therefore whenever he feels like actually doing something he flies a private jet in to Springfield, and the citizens pay the bill. But anyway, Obama is obviously trying to distance himself from Governor Blagojevich and his political machine. We'll see if it affects Obama at all, but now that he's been elected it doesn't matter quite so much.
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Post by pivopijasrbija87 on Feb 7, 2009 20:29:13 GMT 2
If you didn't know, Obama and McCain are both members of the same masonry lodge, so I wouldn't expect any drastic changes whatsoever. Maybe the position of non-whites in the States is gonna improve a little bit and that's it.
I hope I'm wrong. (regarding my first claim)
Anyway, I can write about the complex situation here in Bosnia and Herzegovina or issues regarding the unjust independence of Kosovo if anyone's interested...or anything related to Serbs and Serbia...
cheers
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Post by twilightheart on Feb 7, 2009 20:43:41 GMT 2
Maybe the position of non-whites in the States is gonna improve a little bit and that's it. This is the most important thing to happen... that's why people voted for him. So if he achieves a LITTLE improvement, he has done a hell of a job!!! He has already closed down Guantanamo, and wants to improve health security for children these coming days (taking the money for it from the taxes of cigarettes). These are all important changes for the first days in his job. I believe he will surprise the world with his upcoming actions. It is in his hands to change the bad reputation that the states have in the world since all the latest wars.
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Ǽcen
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Post by Ǽcen on Apr 11, 2009 3:53:02 GMT 2
Maybe the position of non-whites in the States is gonna improve a little bit and that's it. This is the most important thing to happen... that's why people voted for him. So if he achieves a LITTLE improvement, he has done a hell of a job!!! I don't think so. I think a lot of people are quick to place a racial label on things. He may be making history in terms of the office of president itself, but race relations depend on the attitudes of the people. It could be that his election is a reflection of a change in attitudes, but either way, I don't consider Obama himself to be generating those changes. Also, remember that the United States is a federal, not a unitary system- the president and the national government are not as powerful as you may think...
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Post by twilightheart on Jun 7, 2009 16:33:33 GMT 2
Am I the only one who attended the Elections to the European Parliament?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 7, 2009 18:12:04 GMT 2
No, you're not. I wasn't there though...but l hope my friends who voted found a respectable and decent candidate..but that I doubt. And again the image of my country will be stained :/ In the end, individuals make the difference,and as far as I'm concerned,as an european citizen l can represent myself damn well. I worked in projects with and for students and that's all the best l can do for my country in marking our presence in U.E.
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Post by twilightheart on Jun 7, 2009 20:58:35 GMT 2
I worked in projects with and for students and that's all the best l can do for my country in marking our presence in U.E. It's great that you do and probably it appeals to many people what you do. But what most people don't seem to get, is the fact that the EU will do the laws in the future, the EU-law some day soon will have more influences than the laws inside your country. Germany with 99 seats in the European Parlament has more influence than every other country. And again no one really went to vote. So the most old and regressive party of Germany has won and now has the most seats therein, which is a shame. This party wants (just to mention ONE example, one that concerns me as a Black Metal fan, for instance) to sharpen the law against blasphemia (which actually is a crime in Germany). In Switzerland this law has been abolished a long time ago (due to reasons of free choice of believe). I voted for the only progressive party (one that wants to abolish this law) that I could found. This party with their few seats maybe can put a veto to some regressions that might come with the EU-laws. I know you all don't care and you think that you can't do anything. But this election was a chance for you to have at least ONE voice in 4 years, concerning all our future. If all young people would have gone to elect, maybe a more modern party would have made it. But as it was only all our parents that were out to vote, of course (as I already said) the most conservative party made it again. Too bad.
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