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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Apr 24, 2006 18:35:06 GMT 2
ah!- just read in the paper that the 7/7 bombings in london last year ( im sure you have heard about it) well the suvivors are sayer that they have had disgraceful compensastion becuase one survivor had lost her legs and she has received a bad amount of compensation and NOW Tony Blair is talking to the survivors becuase he is only talking to them to get a publicity of how kind and wondeful he is . it said that in the paper exactly. along with the fact that prince harry and his squad members in the army dressed up as the KKK with swastikas drawn on their masks! what the hell? now i hope why peopel understand that the politics adn the royal family is giving me a head ache. last year he dressed up as Hitler and make a model version of the Tsunami and making fun of Tailand. I mean he is one of the heirs for the throne and he is making fun of the ww2. that is completly disgraceful and it has made me so angry that the prince of England is doing that. that has just made my thoughts of moving somewhere else even more stronger. i hate the royal family and politics. i hope you guys can understand what i am trying to say
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Post by MoonDancer on Apr 25, 2006 0:22:17 GMT 2
WE're trying to understand your points, though I think the members of the royal family are still flesh-and blood people with all of the bad habits and failures of any everyman. I think it is the press which puts them higher than ordinary people. Withouth their heritage and crown they would be like a normal family. And normal children in a normal family usually do quite a lot of foolish things. Otherwise I admit that Prince Harry should act according to his heritage. He should have be a model for young people because he is always in the spotlight. By the way it can be really hard to live a life where you have to do everything perfectly and correctly, otherwise the press will write really weird things about you. Poor Prince HArry can't get drunk with hs friends on a party, because next day he will be blamed for it in the newspapers and young Brits will see a bad model...
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Apr 25, 2006 9:56:59 GMT 2
no im on a about the fact that he dressed up as hitler, a KKK person with a swatica on his hat and made fun of the tsunami. he must do it on purpose to get publicity becuase he knows that it is going on media if he does something. i just dont see the point of him doing that. it appears as if he is not grateful for the sacrifices for the WW2. it just does not make sense!
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Post by swiatowit on Apr 26, 2006 20:29:59 GMT 2
Prince Harry is one of these guys, who necessarily want to prove, that they aren't monkeys, or that they are good fellows. But he's an young a**hole.
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Apr 26, 2006 20:35:49 GMT 2
Why yes he is. i dont like the royal family
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Post by littletrollbabee on Apr 27, 2006 14:56:48 GMT 2
After the elections in my country, I'm more disappointed with politics than I used to be. I do not care about other people's political views as long as they don't try to push me and don't bother me. I have friends with different political views and I'm in somewhere in the middle of all (left, right, conservative, liberal). The only thing that makes me sad is when friends and even family members turn into enemies just because of stupid political fights-does it really worth?
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Apr 27, 2006 17:13:50 GMT 2
well, iv'e learned to take the good with bad. think im going to vote for either liberal democrats or conservitives and definatly not labour becuase toby blair agreed to help with the invasion of iraq
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Apr 28, 2006 17:18:02 GMT 2
Would any more people like to contribute to this topic?
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Post by MoonDancer on Apr 28, 2006 23:52:33 GMT 2
Yes, I'd love to, but now I don't have time to do it. All my answers and opinion will be here on Sunday. So don't worry, Olly, at least two people are there.
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Apr 29, 2006 14:42:34 GMT 2
Thank you moondancer- Can't wait
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Post by HerraHirwi on Apr 30, 2006 4:48:55 GMT 2
Would any more people like to contribute to this topic? Sure, so there isn't any point to ask with asking from people about the subject. What comes to politics for me.. I'm not the right person to ask about it. I follow politics way too little to participate fully in this conversation. Of course I'm aware about what happens in foreign and domestic politics in generally, but that's it. I'm not so interested about the subject to pay more attention to it. Politics and also religion are themes, from which I don't like to discuss about on principle in the public forums; I know far too little about the politics and religious themes are far too personal to me to discuss. And both are also themes, which move many people, thus they may increase too much impetuous debate and even aggression. That's the one reason more not to be involved in those themes. But it's the good thing to share thoughts with this kind of issues. I like to read much this kind of topics, althought I have no view to add in it.
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Post by DaveTheRake on Apr 30, 2006 13:17:11 GMT 2
well, iv'e learned to take the good with bad. think im going to vote for either liberal democrats or conservitives and definatly not labour becuase toby blair agreed to help with the invasion of iraq Olli, do you really think that liberal and conservatives were agains the invasion? I'm sure they've used the invasion as a way to attack Blair, but if one of those parties would have had the prime minister in their files when the invasion was planned, believe me, you'd have twice the number of troops you've got right now. It' something I always check when I talk with conservative people, their taste for weapons an violence. Even I can tell you an anecqdote. My friend Cesar worked for an economic magazine at the time the last USA ellections took place. He was invited to a party where a lot of economic and political people were invited. He was introduced to one guy with certain relevance in Popular Party in Madrid. They began talking about the USA ellection and this clever guy told my friend: "Don't you think that Bush should attack Spain to punish Zapatero?" Another conservative guy told me once that Spain should support USA because "they're the only ones with balls to use weapons" I asked him if he thought the use of weapons was the best solution for problems... he said "of course". I'm nt telling not to vote conservatives or liberals, I'm just advicing you not to vote them just to punish Blair for something Conservatives would gladly do
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Post by MoonDancer on May 1, 2006 1:33:57 GMT 2
no im on a about the fact that he dressed up as hitler, a KKK person with a swatica on his hat and made fun of the tsunami. he must do it on purpose to get publicity becuase he knows that it is going on media if he does something. i just dont see the point of him doing that. it appears as if he is not grateful for the sacrifices for the WW2. it just does not make sense! There's only one point: to disappoint his family. Remember: he was too young when his parents divorced, than he was still a teenager when his mother died, than it turned out that his father didn't really love his mother, now his father has married again and so on. He might had got lots of problems during his childhood - uncommunicated and unsolved family problems. He might have needed much more love and care from his family, but he didn't get it, so now he strikes back - this way. I'm not saying that this is a normal behaviour. Prince Harry shouldn't act like this. It is disgraceful, and not just because he is the member of the royal family, but because nacism shouldn't be a topic for kidding. Regarding your votes: (just advice) you should examine how conservatives and democrats acted while they governed Britain. I think Thatcher also would have helped the invasion of Iraq. Moreover you hardly can find a country in Europe which didn't help Americans.
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Post by Humppaporo on May 1, 2006 7:08:07 GMT 2
MoonDancer: you made a really good point here, think you are right. Of course he could have chosen something else to do, but this is rather effective. I didn't write in this thread before, because I don't follow politics that much anymore, and I cannot find the time needed for deep thoughts about this But I read this thread regularly, and find it very interesting... Thanks to all who do contribute
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on May 1, 2006 9:27:51 GMT 2
MoonDancer. Well I can now understand the prnce for doing that, but not only is he trying to get back at his family, he is also offending people of the UK and other European countries who were involved in the war. And to be honest there are alot more sons in worse conditions than him. For instance my neighbour is fostering a boy who hasn't never seen his Mum. and I think His dad used to hut him. He is not dressing up as offensives people from history and he is not doing anything abnormal. So the prince should grow up a bit and realise there are worse off people. And just read in the broadsheet paper. One of Tony Blair's cronies was found to have having sex in durng meetings and during his office hours while sorting out problems of the UK. and another cronie was found to have Weed his his house. What the hell is happening to Labour? You could say that the Conservitives and the LiberalDemocrats do not not do anything disgraceful. Oh and I have found another party. The BNP. They are the party who are trying to sort out the immigration problem and all the stuff I have been mentioning before.
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