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Post by CrazyMary on Jul 4, 2006 8:08:43 GMT 2
every kind of christian and/or otherwise religious music I'm with you there, Kuuraparta, but I do admit a love for Paramaecium, a Christian doom band from Canberra, Australia. We all have our weaknesses.
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Jul 4, 2006 10:22:18 GMT 2
Right, after reading Nordi's reply I must say that "music styles" like trance, dance and that other kinda crap are not music because they are mainly done on the PC which would take 5 minutes to create. Metal/ rock and so forth is music because the artists needs talent, dedication, creative imagination, skill and expertise to be brilliant to play really fast and keep the intensity like super fast drumbeat or an insanly fast guitar solo. The singers well, I can only stand up for a few here, like danni filth- he is only one of the few singers I can listen to along with glen(deicide) and dez(coal chamber/ devil driver) so that what I think to metal being music. Now, I hate all that crappy pop songs and fake artists, like busted and mcfly. They cannot play their own instruments and they are fake. I hate music like james blunt because that music is depressing and makes you want to hang yourself singing "your beautiful". RnB and rap and techno are just rubbish because most of the songs I hear is about popping a cap in a motherfuckers ass, plus the lyrics are just terrible. I'm just metal all the way :0)
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Post by swiatowit on Jul 4, 2006 11:48:27 GMT 2
I can't stand Danni Filth. I have no respect for artists who mix their voices on the computers. "Those, who can't play their songs on concerts aren't musicians" said Bob Dylan.
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Jul 4, 2006 12:53:52 GMT 2
I have heard them live and they are great. Another person who is a great musician and vocalist is Jonne . I can listen to him all day. Mark Hunter of Chimaira has a great voice aswell as Annti(I think that is how you spell his name) of Noumena and vocalist of Reverend bizarre. but I just hate rap and pop artists. Their popularity is mainly heightened by the press exploiting them. Although there is nothing wrong with Madonna
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Post by CrazyMary on Jul 4, 2006 14:02:45 GMT 2
I have heard them live and they are great. Another person who is a great musician and vocalist is Jonne . I can listen to him all day. Mark Hunter of Chimaira has a great voice aswell as Annti(I think that is how you spell his name) of Noumena and vocalist of Reverend bizarre. but I just hate rap and pop artists. Their popularity is mainly heightened by the press exploiting them. Although there is nothing wrong with Madonna I think there's a 'Best Vocalists' thread for this kind of chat
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Post by frostheim on Jul 4, 2006 14:08:54 GMT 2
Metal/ rock and so forth is music because the artists needs talent, dedication, creative imagination, skill and expertise to be brilliant to play really fast and keep the intensity like super fast drumbeat or an insanly fast guitar solo. What about those metal bands (ie. Samael, Summoning, nowadays' Graveland and many many others) who use drum machines or otherwise programmed drum patterns? I'd say they're "more music" than all those darn blast-beat bands or "insanely fast" guitar-wankers which both are found 13 in a dozen. Talent, dedication, creativity, imagination, skill or expertise don't close out the usage of PC or machines alike at all, IMO. Notice that this is just a thought that came to my mind a while ago; I myself would NEVER use any kind of drum machines in my own expression, that's for sure, although I'm RECORDING everything with my PC otherwise.
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Post by vargaskinn on Jul 4, 2006 14:10:53 GMT 2
My dear people!If you have never visited the Balkans,you don't know what bad music is.Forget about Britney Spears,you should hear a genre called "turbo folk".It's a shameful forgery of traditional music with lyrics like;you pulled out a brick of the foundations of our love...I'll cut my veins...all that mixed up with a horrible howling voice...I cannot explain it.If we ever meet I will have to demonstrate that to you
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Post by swiatowit on Jul 4, 2006 14:13:18 GMT 2
For me, I drum machines aren't good idea. Of course, it's good for small bands which start their carieer, but it isn't hard to find the good drummer. There's no machines, wchich could be better than the human.
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Post by frostheim on Jul 4, 2006 14:18:36 GMT 2
There's no machines, wchich could be better than the human. This is self-evident for sure. The point is, that it's up to the person him/herself how to use the machines in a sensible, pleasant, talented etc. ways. It's definately NOT an easy task to make good music/soundscapes/<insert alternative> by using the machines/electronic equipment only. See also what I just edited to my earlier posting up there.
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Post by DaveTheRake on Jul 4, 2006 15:56:39 GMT 2
I could say a lot of styles I hate... though maybe I'd finish before if I'd say what I like. In Spain maybe we all have it quite clear and we hate the same music. As Lain have said, for example I can't stand Reggaeton; and the problem is not that you'll avoid listening to it just if you don't listen to the radio, it's just that you go to any pub and you'll have to hear that shit. I can't understand when people say metal and rock lyrics are violent and then they tolerate some reggaeton lyrics; there are some lyrics that say "beat her but leave no marks on her body"... and the funniest (or saddest) is that you see women dancing to that!
My theory with reggaeton in spain isjust that since we've got such a massive immigration from SOuthAmerican countries, these people bring the music they like and spread it. But I must say that for example in Oviedo I didn't listen to that music... SouthAmerican immigration there is almost zero.
More music I hate is that based on rythm, that's why I don't like rap, techno and that stuff; I think that a good song must have an equilibrium between rythm and melody, and sometimes I can't hear melody on rap and techno. I also hate that so called rythm and blues, bitches like beyoncé and those subdeveloped brained. It's funny for me when I go to a rythm and blues concert and it has nothing at all to do with that shit those bitches perpetrate. Rythm and blues is a quicker blues, like that sung in the BLues Brothers shows, not that u-hu u-hu those foxes sing
I also hate many Spanish music, not only pop, but the so-called folkloricas, which are a mixture of flamenco with who knows what; nothing modern, that kind of women singers were what proliferated during the dictatorship. Only Spanish will know what I'm talking about.
And also, that pop stuff. There are some great pop songs, I like great classics like I Don't Like Mondays, Piano Man.... things like that, but when you hear people like Ricky Martin... God, I'd like to be a furtive hunter to shot that guy down!
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Post by HerraHirwi on Jul 4, 2006 18:05:30 GMT 2
I couldn't say that I don't like for some specific music style or genre overall. I've heard music much of my lifetime and in every musical style I've found something good and also something bad. I've used to say that "every band has at least one good song" and vice versa "every band has at least one not so good song".
What I don't like in music in general is playing copycat: using those same old safe-and-secure elements, in which way you can guess what comes next in the song. Non-original, faceless and meaningless music is bullshit. You can hear it when something is done with no heart at all as "well-made-project". Which gives me a second thing I don't like in music: overclean sounds and overproduction in total. Too clean sounds are only boring and they don't attract me. And it goes without saying that all kind of preaching (both religious and political) should keep so far out from the music as possible.
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Post by Olli The Drunk Bear on Jul 4, 2006 18:17:26 GMT 2
For instance the guitarists out of drgaonforce are blindingly fast, I doubt they use any type of machines to aid them there. that is what I mean, people jip metal but most of the bands consist of highly talented musicians for the purpose that they can play fast complex material, the type of material that needs dedication and skill to play. however i hate grunge. Like Nirvana, i hate them, the only member that is talneted is Dave Grohl. kurt cobain was just singing shit all the time and whining and bitching like a little kid who didnt get their ice cream. I find that all the little kids getting into this type of music is comonly saying Nirvana are better than metallica! Has this world gone upside down. All members of Metallica are talented and write write amazing master peices. And Nirvana prrrft. What have they done so that kids can say they are better. And now I am straying from the metal scene and adventuring folk/pagen/battle metal and such because that is where the real music is.
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Post by Nordis on Jul 4, 2006 18:39:57 GMT 2
Right, after reading Nordi's reply I must say that "music styles" like trance, dance and that other kinda crap are not music because they are mainly done on the PC which would take 5 minutes to create. Feel free to show me how you create music with bare pc in 5 minutes Not that I'd be too fond with dance or trance, but you really think all music that's made with non-organic instruments is anything related to them? It's like categorizing everything from country to nsbm simply as "rock" because they all are made and recorded basically in the same way and same instruments. And what makes the big difference between electric guitar and synthetizer? That distortion and / or delay doesn't appear by itself you know Metal/ rock and so forth is music because the artists needs talent, dedication, creative imagination, skill and expertise to be brilliant to play really fast and keep the intensity like super fast drumbeat or an insanly fast guitar solo. The singers well, I can only stand up for a few here, like danni filth- he is only one of the few singers I can listen to along with glen(deicide) and dez(coal chamber/ devil driver) so that what I think to metal being music. And you don't need any of those skills with other kinds of music? You can play fast as hell 7 days a week without really having any talent. I mean, I can play fast solos with ease even I'm far from a good guitarist Now, I hate all that crappy pop songs and fake artists, like busted and mcfly. They cannot play their own instruments and they are fake. I hate music like james blunt because that music is depressing and makes you want to hang yourself singing "your beautiful". RnB and rap and techno are just rubbish because most of the songs I hear is about popping a cap in a motherfuckers ass, plus the lyrics are just terrible. Word. I really can't stand R'n'B for a single minute, the whole culture around it is something I'll never be able to agree with.
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Post by ina on Jul 4, 2006 19:31:53 GMT 2
First of all, hate is a very strong word and i wish i could avoid such word. Usually some people use the word about music when they have no knowlegde at all about this particular style of music; it´s natural. Why would you want to listen some music you don´t like at all? But it´s very neccesery. For exemble if i one day would decite to say "i hate xxx style of music!" It´s not music at all! All the people who like/make their living with thatkind of music are idiots!" i would need to listen all songs from this gentre and many gentres are so big that i would be dead before that. And no style of music is purely xxx because most of the music we know have many influences in different styles (even it´s almost impossible to hear in some cases) or the style xxx is born from some other style of music. I do resheect the dislikes of other people but it´s a little bit unprofessional to judge when you´ve heard just few bands/songs. I don´t understand people who don´t even want to understand things outside their own preferences. Many people who listen to music which is not well-known claim that Britney Spears have no soul in her music; "hey, she doesn´t do anything herself! She´s a product instead of this alternative group what i listen! I bet that people who like this group are much more intelligent than the ones who listen to britney!" Do you know how ridicilous it acheally sounds? Like many have said, so called alternative music has it´s own devils too and people are complaining how bad and full-produced the mainstream music is. Shortly; First. Be open-minded. Second. Listen throught the whole gentre. Third. Then complain
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Post by lain on Jul 4, 2006 20:01:57 GMT 2
Congratulations for those who can listen ONLY the music they like, but some people haven't that privilege (me, for example) I have to suffer listening to music I don't like all day: in the street, at work, etc. I'm not listening to it for pleasure, I can't run away from it. If I could, I'll do, of course. ;D There's a few kinds of music that I hate, but anyway I respect those people who likes it. I'm free to hate whatever I want, it doesn't mean I think those who like this music should be stupid nor I hate PEOPLE, I just hate its music. Some people hates the music I like too, and I respect it too. About to be open - minded, well, I am, but for me that means: Know all that you can, and choose what you like. Some music could be well-doned but, simply, you don't like, or maybe you can't stand with it.(some people here said they don't like classical music, for example, or jazz... and usually that kinds of music are very hard to compose and play, and well-doned, but they simply don't like) Shortly, I'm talking about "hate" from my primary feelings, it isn't about quality or beauty. P.D. Sorry, but it's so hard for me to write in english, I'm doing my best in the forum, excuse me for my mistakes
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